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Incursions: CCP is too slow - now we will act
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Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-04-18 09:42:20 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
Nemo deBlanc wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Herr Ronin wrote:
A lot of people are annoyed about the nerf, However it will still be the best isk in the game, So i think we just need to take it on the chin.


i hate to burst your bubble but it's only the best isk in the game if you've never heard of WHs.


Nerf incursions more tbh, they aren't crying hard enough yet. And yeah, wh isk/hr ***** all over incursions. Anyone who disagrees is doing it wrong.

Of course, taking shinies outside HS is a thought that terrifies the hardened bears. Lol



Why is it that incursion people do not complain about WH ISK but WH people complain about incursion isk ? You just now said it yourself that you earn more . If you earn more then why do you complain ? Do you want others to not earn anything and take their ships to your " home field " so you can feel " powerfull and mighty " ? Please get back on the ground .

NO RISK, NO ISK NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NO RISK, NO ISK NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NO RISK, NO ISK NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NO RISK, NO ISK NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NO RISK, NO ISK NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NO RISK, NO ISK NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF

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Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#22 - 2012-04-18 09:47:08 UTC
I see that you have mastered the Ctr - c + Ctr - p as a true warrior . Well done young padavan .
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#23 - 2012-04-18 09:47:42 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Last couple months Incursions paid out about 9 trillion / month.
Thanks to the asshats who whined and the asshats in CCP who listened to them, I am predicting that 9 trillion drops to about 5 trillion.



Thank God!

Now if I may suggest: if you want to stay in high-sec then please go back to mining! The EVE economy needs the pure carebears (and I use that term respectfully) to do something useful and not just going out creating more isk and producing nothing of value for the economy.

Just as I predicted when incursions first started, inflation is getting severe. The EVE economy NEEDS a consistent over-supply of minerals in order to keep inflation under control and as long as the high-sec indy players are getting distracted by incursions then the economy will suffer.

Nothing in high-sec should pay better than mining. Period. As soon as it does then bad things happen.
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#24 - 2012-04-18 09:59:47 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Last couple months Incursions paid out about 9 trillion / month.
Thanks to the asshats who whined and the asshats in CCP who listened to them, I am predicting that 9 trillion drops to about 5 trillion.



Thank God!

Now if I may suggest: if you want to stay in high-sec then please go back to mining! The EVE economy needs the pure carebears (and I use that term respectfully) to do something useful and not just going out creating more isk and producing nothing of value for the economy.

Just as I predicted when incursions first started, inflation is getting severe. The EVE economy NEEDS a consistent over-supply of minerals in order to keep inflation under control and as long as the high-sec indy players are getting distracted by incursions then the economy will suffer.

Nothing in high-sec should pay better than mining. Period. As soon as it does then bad things happen.


If mining pays **** and then you say that everything else should pay even worse then the concept is wrong . Swap mining payouts and incursion payouts around . You will see a mining boom .
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-04-18 10:00:19 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Nothing in high-sec should pay better than mining. Period. As soon as it does then bad things happen.

Except suicide ganking!

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discordigant
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-04-18 10:03:55 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
Nemo deBlanc wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
Herr Ronin wrote:
A lot of people are annoyed about the nerf, However it will still be the best isk in the game, So i think we just need to take it on the chin.


i hate to burst your bubble but it's only the best isk in the game if you've never heard of WHs.


Nerf incursions more tbh, they aren't crying hard enough yet. And yeah, wh isk/hr ***** all over incursions. Anyone who disagrees is doing it wrong.

Of course, taking shinies outside HS is a thought that terrifies the hardened bears. Lol



Why is it that incursion people do not complain about WH ISK but WH people complain about incursion isk ? You just now said it yourself that you earn more . If you earn more then why do you complain ? Do you want others to not earn anything and take their ships to your " home field " so you can feel " powerfull and mighty " ? Please get back on the ground .



I do Wh's and i don't whine about incursion and TBH don't care if they get nerfed because i can easily make more and get as much pvp i care to find when i go roaming.

But incursions you are risking very little to get that reward and that's not balanced at all.
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#27 - 2012-04-18 10:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodavor
Lets look at the " Less risk " term .

0.4 -1.0 Kill what you find and pray to not get blobed . Use cheaper ships that perform well to minimize the loss if such occurs .

1.0-0.5 Gank what you want knowing that if you fail you will lose it all and you will be laughed at by many . Organize your operations well and be rewarded with the kill and your losses will be minimal .

You can get multibillion kills in high sec if you have the ability to organize the kill properly and accurately . The " inbetween the lines " text in most of the complain posts are that you want ganks to be risk free . You want the so called " carebears " to fit their ships with billion worth modules and fly around just for you to pop them when you feel like it . Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-04-18 10:52:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Anderron Shi
Kodavor wrote:
Lets look at the " Less risk " term .

0.4 -1.0 Kill what you find and pray to not get blobed . Use cheaper ships that perform well to minimize the loss if such occurs .

1.0-0.5 Gank what you want knowing that if you fail you will lose it all and you will be laughed at by many . Organize your operations well and be rewarded with the kill and your losses will be minimal .

You can get multibillion kills in high sec if you have the ability to organize the kill properly and accurately . The " inbetween the lines " text in most of the complain posts is that you want ganks to be risk free . You want the so called " carebears " to fit their ships with billion worth modules and fly around just for you to pop them when you feel like it . Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .

Wise words from a wise man...wait, what? 2 kills and 16 losses? Now that's something for the masses to laugh at. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kodavor

YOU LOST A MEGATHRON TO A VEXOR

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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#29 - 2012-04-18 10:57:24 UTC
Kodavor wrote:


If mining pays **** and then you say that everything else should pay even worse then the concept is wrong . Swap mining payouts and incursion payouts around . You will see a mining boom .


We'll get there. CCP banned a LOT of mining and drone-ratting bots lately and you can already see the effect it's having on mineral prices.

I sure hope the miners go back to mining though or we're all going to end up paying a gazillion isk for a Drake.
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#30 - 2012-04-18 10:59:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kodavor
I like how , when limited to a specific answer , you folk link the Killboard ^^ . So predictable %) I will not place you in the class of " very limited way of thought " yet and assume that you simply forgot that a " Work horse " in there to work , not generate killboard stats .
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#31 - 2012-04-18 11:01:47 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Kodavor wrote:


If mining pays **** and then you say that everything else should pay even worse then the concept is wrong . Swap mining payouts and incursion payouts around . You will see a mining boom .


We'll get there. CCP banned a LOT of mining and drone-ratting bots lately and you can already see the effect it's having on mineral prices.

I sure hope the miners go back to mining though or we're all going to end up paying a gazillion isk for a Drake.


+1 to that Mr. Tinu .
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-04-18 11:03:53 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
I like how , when limited to a specific answer , you folk link the Killboard ^^ . So predictable %) I will not place you in the calss of " very limited way of thought " yet and assume that you simply forgot that a " Work horse " in there to work , not generate killboard stats .

WTF does that say? Translation please, from someone who speaks both English and wet brain.

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Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#33 - 2012-04-18 11:06:36 UTC
Could someone please assist this man ? I will pay the volunteer 10mill .
Tenchuu Khaan
Vagabond Association
#34 - 2012-04-18 14:11:11 UTC
Anderron Shi wrote:
Kodavor wrote:
I like how , when limited to a specific answer , you folk link the Killboard ^^ . So predictable %) I will not place you in the calss of " very limited way of thought " yet and assume that you simply forgot that a " Work horse " in there to work , not generate killboard stats .

WTF does that say? Translation please, from someone who speaks both English and wet brain.

It means it's his ISKing account, not his PvP account.


As to risk vs. reward - when you have been out in 0.0 and been ratting or grinding sanctums you'll definitely get the feeling that it's pretty unfair that "those carebears in high sec" make much more money with "low to no risk".
Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#35 - 2012-04-18 14:24:26 UTC
10 mill sent Mr. Khaan .
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-04-18 15:58:30 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
10 mill sent Mr. Khaan .
LOL link your pvp account.

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Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-04-18 16:02:51 UTC
Anderron Shi wrote:
Kodavor wrote:
10 mill sent Mr. Khaan .
LOL link your pvp account.


Yes cause linking pvp accounts will prove what good sir?

Maybe you are in the wrong forum.

Someone throw this idiot a bone.

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-04-18 16:19:43 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .

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Kodavor
Iz Doge Korp .
#39 - 2012-04-18 16:34:58 UTC
Anderron Shi wrote:
Kodavor wrote:
Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .




Quote:
You can get multibillion kills in high sec if you have the ability to organize the kill properly and accurately . The " inbetween the lines " text in most of the complain posts are that you want ganks to be risk free . You want the so called " carebears " to fit their ships with billion worth modules and fly around just for you to pop them when you feel like it . Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-04-18 16:57:29 UTC
Kodavor wrote:
Anderron Shi wrote:
Kodavor wrote:
Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .




Quote:
You can get multibillion kills in high sec if you have the ability to organize the kill properly and accurately . The " inbetween the lines " text in most of the complain posts are that you want ganks to be risk free . You want the so called " carebears " to fit their ships with billion worth modules and fly around just for you to pop them when you feel like it . Well ... tought luck . No brains = no kills . You can still pop them at any time but you need to put some effort into it .

wut

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