Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i think it would be nice if ammo/charges were added that are meant to be used in non kill pvp duels or training/etc, basically they would be simply identical to the current charges and ammo ingame except with one difference, completely unable to deplete the structure of a ship.

that way you could more easily duel or spar or train or however you like to call it with friends using the same (functionally, except for structure depletion removed) ammo types, with the same damage type and stats as the real lethal ones without the risk of either person losing a ship due to a very bad miss match (say one person does a lot more damage than expected and accidentally destroys his opponents ship for example) or other reasons without unintentional losses being possible beyond repair charges.

i think it would be useful to have as you could have safe duels and such as well as tournaments with zero possibility of either player losing a ship, or you could test your newly devised fitting against a corp mate you know has a very good fitting and more easily get a decent idea of how well you did.

anyway, thanks for reading this thread, let me know what you think.

Math

not sure what to make of that.

Nope.

yeah i saw the arenas discussion, what about it?

also, way to welcome people to the community, not a surprise though, eve is one of the best games of all time for rewarding pointless dickery.



also, way to assume everyone is an armor or hull tank, that's ignorance, flames, wow, this is getting better by the second.

the rewarding of pointless dickery, like everyone else.

i know that parts of the game world are lawless yes, i didn't think the forums were as well however, now would you mind removing your flames from this thread until and when you have something constructive and non-offensive to add?

are you really that stupid?

as i said above, not everyone is an armor or structure tank and the duel may be far more outmatched than either participant can anticipate, also it would prevent people from griefing pvp tournaments, they could force the requirement to use the non hull ammo to join and not be able to kill the loser whether they want to or not.

you know, there is always SISI...

@OP

Firstly, welcome to the EvE forums. Not everyone will give you **** answers but most will.

Secondly, might I respectfully suggest that for the purpose of self-preservation you use the search function to research your ideas prior to posting them please?

This will serve two purposes: 1) It'll stop your blood boiling from all the flames directed your way & 2) It'll mean that people who read this forum ad nauseum won't have to read the same thing they read quite as often.

You wouldn't believe how many people post the same things, occasionally attempting to package them differently thinking that people won't notice. However, they always do and the OP just seems like even more of a fool.

Just as an example I would avoid posting:

a) ]AFK cloaking blah blah

b) Buying/swapping/respeccing skill points

c) Training zones/ammo

d) New ships (unless you find a role which isn't currently filled)

e) Anything that completely protects you from others.


Just trying to give you a heads up.

EDIT - Just to answer the question of why not, it's work for the devs that could be better spent elsewhere and unnecessary DB overhead (needing to duplicate ALL ammo and charge types). For all the time this game has been in existence the players have tested their fits without blowing up their friends (mostly). EvE isn't safe. Any attempt to make it safe in any way will receive mass resistance from the majority of the players and therefore is incredibly unlikely to be taken up by CCP. All this and the fact that CCP have stated that they have no intention of doing so makes these threads completely pointless.

wow... finally some real replies, both from the same person, but thanks all the same.

1&2: fair enough and thanks for the info about SISI.

3. how so? i mean, sure some people hull tank but.... can you explain in more detail? i'm not understanding here, only change i suggested was not being able to destroy structure, so... sure against structure tanks it's a badly thought out suggestion, but against the rest it would be identical except zero hull damage, how is that "zero ability to test a fitting"?

4. i sure hope so, assumptions are typically wrong even when they are educated guesses and i admit that was a bit borderline of a train of thought i had going there but... it makes sense still, pvpers don't want pve players to be able to effectively build pvp without minimal participation in it, but... is it really that scary that anyone could build a pvp effective fitting without a lot of trial and error or SISI?

5. it's happened, he wasn't specifically targeted, but the web and warp scrambler did confuse him until his pod blew up, i got expelled from ever participating again and the judges claimed i lost, satisfactory outcome for me to be honest.