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Help me understand Agression Mechanics
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The Tribble
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-18 05:09:02 UTC
Ok I understand the following
1) If someone salvages my wrecks I can't shoot him
2) If someone steals from my wrecks I CAN shoot him
3) If I shoot that someone, he can shoot me

My question is this.
A) How long can I shoot him?
B) If I shoot him, how long can he shoot me?
C) Does his switching ships affect B)
D) Can his corp mates shoot me too?

No, im not going to shoot him in my missioning ship, that would be silly.
I got a couple of PVP setups ready for this occasion.
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#2 - 2012-04-18 05:57:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cap Tyrian
A) Aggression timer is 15 minutes

B) 15 minutes, it resets its self for both partys every time you shoot him or he you.

C) No

D) That depends, if you stole from him you're flagged to his entire corp. If he stole from you your entire corp can shoot him but only he can shoot as his corp will not get aggression.

If your friends support you with remote modules, he can shoot them aswell.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-04-18 05:59:28 UTC
A) Aggro timer is 15 minutes

B) 15 minutes

C) No

D) That depends, if you stole from him you're flagged to his entire corp. If he stole from you your entire corp can shoot him but only he can shoot as his corp will not get aggro.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-04-18 06:00:12 UTC
Cap Tyrian wrote:
editing


Do it right the first time!

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Liam Mirren
#5 - 2012-04-18 06:04:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Mirren
- If he steals from you, you and your player corp members can shoot him for 15 minutes
- if you take the ore back it's vice versa, he and his corp mates can shoot you
- if during those initial 15 minutes you shoot him then you both get your personal timer towards eachother of 15 minutes, which is reset every time you aggress or attack
- if you shoot him his corp mate can not shoot you but he is ofcourse allowed to help with remote reps or similar. that friend will then copy over the aggression reset back to 15 minutes. You can shoot him but if you do he can ofcourse shoot back
- switching ships still leaves him aggressed to you, what generally will happen is an alt of his dropping off a non-piloted ship. If you target the empty ship before the guy can board it then he won't be able to, not sure on how that is if dropped from an orca atm (citation needed)

Do note that the whole mechanic is about to change in the next expansion, thing is that the guys working on it don't necessarily fully understand how or why these things work as they do so expect it to be a very carebearish and stupid change.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#6 - 2012-04-18 06:08:33 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Cap Tyrian wrote:
editing


Do it right the first time!


What ?

First you steal my text, forget important details and then scold me. Is this suppose to be funny?
Liam Mirren
#7 - 2012-04-18 06:16:38 UTC
alt/main spotted :)

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The Tribble
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-18 06:31:30 UTC
Ok if i sucessfully kill him, does it extend the timer or give him kill rights?
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#9 - 2012-04-18 06:34:46 UTC
The Tribble wrote:
Ok if i sucessfully kill him, does it extend the timer or give him kill rights?


Nope, the shooting you did up to you killing him will though so about 15 min from the time he pops. Also note that aggression doesn't carry over to pods in high sec and low sec unless you are at war so don't do something rash and take a huge sec hit =D

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#10 - 2012-04-18 07:11:20 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
The Tribble wrote:
Ok if i sucessfully kill him, does it extend the timer or give him kill rights?


Nope, the shooting you did up to you killing him will though so about 15 min from the time he pops. Also note that aggression doesn't carry over to pods in high sec and low sec unless you are at war so don't do something rash and take a huge sec hit =D


Or pod da bastard, scoop his corpse into cargo and start nice collection in your freezer. Also implants he had in his head can look good on your killboard :)

Sec status can be reworked with ratting or maybe taste of blood will lead you out of hisec shanningans into low and null where you don't have to wait for your wrecks be looted.

Eve is full of possibilities and your main role is to make choices that will shape your destiny. Choices have consequences, sometimes harsh but that's the beauty of this game.

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The Tribble
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-18 17:27:42 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
The Tribble wrote:
Ok if i sucessfully kill him, does it extend the timer or give him kill rights?


Nope, the shooting you did up to you killing him will though so about 15 min from the time he pops. Also note that aggression doesn't carry over to pods in high sec and low sec unless you are at war so don't do something rash and take a huge sec hit =D


Or pod da bastard, scoop his corpse into cargo and start nice collection in your freezer. Also implants he had in his head can look good on your killboard :)

Sec status can be reworked with ratting or maybe taste of blood will lead you out of hisec shanningans into low and null where you don't have to wait for your wrecks be looted.

Eve is full of possibilities and your main role is to make choices that will shape your destiny. Choices have consequences, sometimes harsh but that's the beauty of this game.


Wait, wouldn't pod killing him provoke a CONCORDoken?
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#12 - 2012-04-18 17:46:42 UTC
The Tribble wrote:

Wait, wouldn't pod killing him provoke a CONCORDoken?


Yup. I believe the guy you're quoting is saying it's worth it, though. Pirate
Velicitia
XS Tech
#13 - 2012-04-18 17:54:04 UTC
The Tribble wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
The Tribble wrote:
Ok if i sucessfully kill him, does it extend the timer or give him kill rights?


Nope, the shooting you did up to you killing him will though so about 15 min from the time he pops. Also note that aggression doesn't carry over to pods in high sec and low sec unless you are at war so don't do something rash and take a huge sec hit =D


Or pod da bastard, scoop his corpse into cargo and start nice collection in your freezer. Also implants he had in his head can look good on your killboard :)

Sec status can be reworked with ratting or maybe taste of blood will lead you out of hisec shanningans into low and null where you don't have to wait for your wrecks be looted.

Eve is full of possibilities and your main role is to make choices that will shape your destiny. Choices have consequences, sometimes harsh but that's the beauty of this game.


Wait, wouldn't pod killing him provoke a CONCORDoken?


yes ... but pods are hilariously squishy. just BM the location and come back for the corpse after 15m (most people don't have biomass on their overviews, so will probably miss it).

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