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New dev blog: Corporation Forums on the EVE Forums!

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Tuppance
Korsiki Enterprises
#201 - 2012-03-11 00:53:24 UTC
I don't even get a pop-up?
Rengerel en Distel
#202 - 2012-03-11 03:26:01 UTC
Tuppance wrote:
I don't even get a pop-up?


need 10 people in the corp.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

Tuppance
Korsiki Enterprises
#203 - 2012-03-11 20:29:40 UTC
Ah. OK. Thanks.
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#204 - 2012-03-13 19:22:11 UTC
Autosave!!! Love you guys!

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

Sika Assene
Omega Cobalt
#205 - 2012-03-13 23:01:36 UTC
Just logged on to get my corp their very own forums, but I don't see the option anywhere. Is there something I'm missing?
Daool
hirr
Pandemic Horde
#206 - 2012-03-14 06:03:06 UTC
I am having a few of our members saying they cannot see the Corp Forum (but can see te normalforums) while others including me can.

Anyone else getting this?
Chanina
ASGARD HEAVY INDUSTRIES
#207 - 2012-03-15 13:20:12 UTC
Daool wrote:
I am having a few of our members saying they cannot see the Corp Forum (but can see te normalforums) while others including me can.

Anyone else getting this?


It works fine by me but some of my member had problems especially when the char got in corp recently.

Try to log off an return to character selection. reselect the right character and try it again. that solved the problem in the cases I had.
Celalendir Te'Te'fein
TFT Holding Inc.
#208 - 2012-03-17 17:46:22 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.

- Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later.

- Public announcement forum was suggested. A place to post announcements to the read-only-rest-of-the-universe crowd. That's a nice suggestion that we'll take into consideration. We'd have to figure out a way to make it work so that not everyone sees announcements from a billion corps while still being useful as a broadcasting tool.

- Does the current ETA of corp forums have anything to do with Dust? Nope. If it does though, I'm being kept in the dark :(

- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.


I would like to see the forum used as information portal aswell - i wanted a "ledger" sort in EVE For ages - not a external forum, but something way more useful then the Bullitins. Ledger, with "chapters" (tab's), where u can post 1-? pages in each, and flip through, or look up in. Tie it to a forum - even better.. "publish ledger content into forum, and reverse".

For me, a Info Ledger to replace the bullitins would be far more useful then another external forum, thow +1 for beeing a EVE forum - in the sense its a official linked-to-the-game-forum.

- Celalendir Te'Te'fein
CEO Ordo Eventus
Sassums
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#209 - 2012-03-20 19:10:28 UTC
It would be nice to have a sub forum for recruitment purposes within our corporation forums!

Also Alliance forums would be nice!
aGeNET
Heul doch
#210 - 2012-03-21 21:02:11 UTC
It would be nice, if corps smaller then 10 members could have a corpforum Ugh
General Abrams
Ghost Operations Tactical Unit
#211 - 2012-03-22 00:18:19 UTC
aGeNET wrote:
It would be nice, if corps smaller then 10 members could have a corpforum Ugh



Wait a Sec... You have to have 10 people in Corp to have a Forum... WTF? Not everyone wants a large Corp, but still want a Forum. WTH the limitation? CCP Corp forum ganked by Lame-A$$ decision making. Evil

BTW, while your at it CCP, Fixing all the Corp interface bugs and glitches... Tired of seeing wars that ended over a year ago, still show up in the "In Effect" Tab... Because, IT's NOT!
Shizah
Cutting Edge Incorporated
#212 - 2012-03-22 12:52:09 UTC
ps3ud0nym wrote:
I am truly confused by this. It seems to me a neat, but functionally useless feature.

There is FAR to much emphasis placed at CCP on the whole "Corp" concept. It is my understanding that the vast majority of corps sit at around the 10 member mark and never get any bigger. There are lots of explanations as to why this may be so, but I am pretty sure that the reason they don't get larger isn't a lack of forum options. The fact is that corp communication isn't generally an issue, and by the time it does become an issue, it isn't corp communications you are worrying about, but rather Alliance and Coalition communication!

The issue is this, if you are a corp that is using the CCP forums, you are going to have a harder time when you join an Alliance or Coalition. You can't share those CCP forums with your Alliance, you can't allow access to portions to blues or your Coalition members and worse, it locks all your data into a nice proprietary CCP owned data store and you can't easily access it. It is a good idea, but doesn't seem thought through.

The reality here is that we need tools to help communicate to the people we play with, and CCP doesn't seem to realize that "Corp" isn't the end all and be all of that definition. What I would like to see is a standard permissions system. Use the user as the user object, Alliance/Corp as your first groups (make it so you have custom groups as well) and adopt a rights model like Exchange with various user roles and permissions. I want to be able to share my cache of fits with more than just the people in my corp.

This goes much further.. I want ways to integrate Jabber into EVE.. I want ways to integrate TeamSpeak and Mumble. A competent alliance will have Forums, Jabber, TeamSpeak/Mumble all tied into an auth system that assigns permissions based off API and checking against standings. That is just the BASICS. I really want CCP to realize that there is significant out of game IT resources required to create and maintain a functioning Alliance in EVE, I would like to see CCP dedicate some resources to reducing that over-head.

I don't see this as helping as it replaces a fully functional, if complex and difficult, system, with one that is crippled in the very ways I need it most (Auth and sharing info outside of just the corp level). I applaud the effort, I just think it could be better spent finding ways to make all those services play together better, and more easily integrate with EVE.


This is an excellent overview of what corp/alliances need today to function well.
Mia Trouble
Phoenix Hell Raiser
#213 - 2012-03-26 08:58:28 UTC
So what got broken this time seems every time we have a new feature added to this game something has to be broken somewhere else so come on whats broken this time thats never going to hit the fix list

I am optimistically pessimistic 

Skogen Gump
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#214 - 2012-04-02 11:58:14 UTC
Sorry if this is mentioned already, just had a few thoughts about this:

Is there or will there be a way to enable us to take advantage of the trusted-site mechanisms from the in-game browser ?

Can the in-game browser have a button to take you to your corp forums ?

Will we get the option to add sub-forums ?

Will we be able to get Alliance forums ?

Can I eventually give access to +5/+10 ?

Otherwise, so far so good!
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#215 - 2012-04-08 22:27:09 UTC
This is a great improvement, kudos if CCP managed to pull this off.

I'm not sure if this would be useful for larger corporation/alliances though.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#216 - 2012-04-09 13:50:02 UTC
The answer to all this is pretty easy: Let those who are best at doing certain things do those. CCP is very good at spaceship games but well, web stuff is not their main focus. Still alot of tools are web based especially forums.

So why not go the facebook connect way? Let's call it Eve Connect. CCP implements a service to authenticate a player/character with the web tools already available, like OAuth.

The player base can build all the tools they like and make access and authorization depending on the "Eve Connect" service.

There are more man months of work available among the players than CCP can muster. Focus!

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

piratezxp
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#217 - 2012-04-10 11:50:43 UTC
I am loving the idea of Corp Forums, ty
Even know the one i just setup does not work properly right now - i cant seem to create new topics in any of them, i shall give it an hour or two and try again.

Anyways...

I would say an Alliance Forum is a better option to have indeed - after all more discussions happen on an alliance basis (atleast for me!)

If the alliance forums came into play, would it be possible to embedd the corp forums with it too, where the CEO of each corp can set "View"/"View & Post" or simalar access control permissions to do something like this:
Please excuse the extremely poor image, im at work and had to use the amazing Microsoft Paint.

http://www.alienxservers.co.uk/pictures/eve/eve_forum_idea.jpg

Just brain storming - and bored at work.

Vrash Bone
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#218 - 2012-04-15 20:15:21 UTC
Adding my voice to the chorus that wants alliance forums!

Also, since the primary function of our private forums is recruitment, we can't use the shiny new EVE corp forums until non-corpies have access. A stellar effort, nonetheless.

- Vrash
Enkill Eridos
Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire
#219 - 2012-04-18 02:34:22 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
The answer to all this is pretty easy: Let those who are best at doing certain things do those. CCP is very good at spaceship games but well, web stuff is not their main focus. Still alot of tools are web based especially forums.

So why not go the facebook connect way? Let's call it Eve Connect. CCP implements a service to authenticate a player/character with the web tools already available, like OAuth.

The player base can build all the tools they like and make access and authorization depending on the "Eve Connect" service.

There are more man months of work available among the players than CCP can muster. Focus!



I know PHP, HTML, Java, ASP.NET and a little of css I will volunteer. I taught myself hopefully that doesn't disqualify me.

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Enkill Eridos
Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire
#220 - 2012-04-18 02:50:07 UTC
Sika Assene wrote:
Just logged on to get my corp their very own forums, but I don't see the option anywhere. Is there something I'm missing?



They released it, tried it, then disabled it because it wasn't working right. I don't know the full details, but they crossed out the release date and put something similar to Just Kidding it isn't done yet.

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