Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The virus idea is stupid and makes no sense.

If your real grief is against bots the solution would be to make mining more interactive. I.e make mining cycles more involved than target a rock and repeatedly zap til rock dies.

Yeah I done can looting, I done lowsec ratting, I'm hoping to go wormholing soon. But none of this is playing with highsec miners.



If you like, I've had that happen to me, I've lived, it was fun. I've also had people let me help them, I've had wrecks turned blue so I can loot them and one day I hope to manage to pull of a can flip so my corpies can then all pile in and kill some poor sap.

All good intereactive fun with other players, situations where I've no idea what will happen :D




Ok, but my experience of lowsec is two lost ships in my first couple of trips down there, one being station camped, one a gate camp, I've learnt from these experiences, and can now probably avoid such trouble, which is nice, but it doesn't let me play with high sec miners.



I will, but I'd like more varied intereaction with them, not just oh hello, BOOM! and then be CONCORDed and all that. Something between nothing and shooting them in the face.

Thanks for the insult ;)

Care to justify that at all? What makes no sense about it?



I'm not arguing against more intereactive mining, but as I understand it that's been covered in other threads quite considerably.

It also wouldn't stop me wanting to be able to play with miners.

haha. say goodbye to pvp then. The game would become a "paytowin".

Plenty of "live" people mine. I will not deny that it is boring. But to say that something is useless because it is boring is niave.

I hate macro miners and there are plenty of ways to deal with them , aka player events like Hulkaggedon. Not all miners are macros, however, so just removing miners to get rid of the macros is like saying to get rid of all dps ships so we won't have macro ratting.

Mining is a pivotal role in this game. I make more money mining than you do 0.0 ratting.

And to the OP,

May i suggest suicide ganking and war decs. "But he's is a npc corp." you say. Hmm, one of the many signs of a macro miner huh? If you don't like miners as they are very easy ships to kill. Your "dreams" of pirating are in plenty out there. You just need to be creative.

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"Your Erebus is docked? How the hell did that happen?" "It took a lot of grease and pushing....."

^ What he said, syndicate is amusing, there is lots of interaction going on there, not that that stopped me from invisibly trolololing it, but they are good sports with some good interaction guaranteed to end up ina a killmail! (for you or them, one is as good as the other XD)

I would like to have a module that I can fit on any ship to where when you're engaged by someone without kill rights on you, aggression on you, or a wardec with your corp/alliance, the module would send a virus to their ship telling the ship to attack its own internal stuctures.

The virus will do damage over time until

a) the ship and pod are destroyed
b) The player denounces their pirate ways and never again engages a player without a wardec, killrights, or aggression, to include gate camps.

or

C) THE PIRATE GTFO AND NEVER PLAYS EVE AGAIN!!!


Basically, what I'm saying is that everyone in eve hates something about eve that is caused by other players.

You hate afk and macro miners because of their easy isk income.
I hate easy killmail padding gate camps the risk little to nothing because they insta everything a ship so that they can pvp with little to no ACTUAL pvp. Hell it's more PVS. Player vs. a Ship.

If CCP is going to give pirates a virus to plant in asteroids that could pop miners for simply being miners, then CCP should allow me to fit a virus to pop pirates just for being pirates.
Your design is meant to reduce something you feel is a problem, my design is meant to reduce something I feel is a problem.

The difference is I see that Eve is a game and could care less what other players do. You, however, seem to think eve is a part of life and no player should be able to play without actually playing.

Sure, ore prices might go up without macro and afk miners in eve, but when ore goes up, so does everything else, and right now I'd say i'm pretty happy with the current costs of items in eve. Also, IT'S A GAME. Just play man....

Neither actually.

But I am tiring of repeating myself so I'll get back to just ganking miners and collecting their tears.

Wow, you think that'll work?

If so I fully support your idea, however I kinda think we need to sugar-coat the pill with some fairness and some reason that benefits CCP.