Market Discussions

i need a new badass graph for my market pvp... something what is worth of being implemented into eve online!


it should contain most of the charting terms and indicators and at least the option to turn indicators on/off


Concepts

Resistance — a price level that may prompt a net increase of selling activity

Support — a price level that may prompt a net increase of buying activity

Breakout — the concept whereby prices forcefully penetrate an area of prior support or resistance, usually, but not always, accompanied by an increase in volume.

Trending — the phenomenon by which price movement tends to persist in one direction for an extended period of time

Average true range — averaged daily trading range, adjusted for price gaps

Chart pattern — distinctive pattern created by the movement of security prices on a chart

Dead cat bounce — the phenomenon whereby a spectacular decline in the price of a stock is immediately followed by a moderate and temporary rise before resuming its downward movement

Elliott wave principle and the golden ratio to calculate successive price movements and retracements

Fibonacci ratios — used as a guide to determine support and resistance

Momentum — the rate of price change

Point and figure analysis — A priced-based analytical approach employing numerical filters which may incorporate time references, though ignores time entirely in its construction.

Cycles — time targets for potential change in price action (price only moves up, down, or sideways)
Market Condition — the state of price movement as being in a state of range expansion or a range contraction.


Types of charts

Open-high-low-close chart — OHLC charts, also known as bar charts, plot the span between the high and low prices of a trading period as a vertical line segment at the trading time, and the open and close prices with horizontal tick marks on the range line, usually a tick to the left for the open price and a tick to the right for the closing price.

Candlestick chart — Of Japanese origin and similar to OHLC, candlesticks widen and fill the interval between the open and close prices to emphasize the open/close relationship. In the West, often black or red candle bodies represent a close lower than the open, while white, green or blue candles represent a close higher than the open price.

Line chart — Connects the closing price values with line segments.

Point and figure chart — a chart type employing numerical filters with only passing references to time, and which ignores time entirely in its construction.

Overlays
Overlays are generally superimposed over the main price chart.

Resistance — a price level that may act as a ceiling above price

Support — a price level that may act as a floor below price

Trend line — a sloping line described by at least two peaks or two troughs

Channel — a pair of parallel trend lines

Moving average — the last n-bars of price divided by "n" -- where "n" is the number of bars specified by the length of the average. A moving average can be thought of as a kind of dynamic trend-line.

Bollinger bands — a range of price volatility

Parabolic SAR — Wilder's trailing stop based on prices tending to stay within a parabolic curve during a strong trend

Pivot point — derived by calculating the numerical average of a particular currency's or stock's high, low and closing prices

Ichimoku kinko hyo — a moving average-based system that factors in time and the average point between a candle's high and low


Price-based indicators
These indicators are generally shown below or above the main price chart.

Average Directional Index — a widely used indicator of trend strength

Commodity Channel Index — identifies cyclical trends

MACD — moving average convergence/divergence

Momentum — the rate of price change

Relative Strength Index (RSI) — oscillator showing price strength

Stochastic oscillator — close position within recent trading range

Trix — an oscillator showing the slope of a triple-smoothed exponential moving average

%C — denotes current market environment as range expansion or contraction plus highlights ta extremes when the condition should be changing.

Breadth Indicators
These indicators are based on statistics derived from the broad market

Advance Decline Line — a popular indicator of market breadth

McClellan Oscillator - a popular closed-form indicator of breadth

McClellan Summation Index - a popular open-form indicator of breadth

Volume-based indicators

Accumulation/distribution index — based on the close within the day's range

Money Flow — the amount of stock traded on days the price went up

On-balance volume — the momentum of buying and selling stocks

I might be thinking too big here:

1)Add a buy list that tracks if you've got an active buy order for that item, and list in what regions.
Color the item red if you don't have a buy order anywhere, green if you do.
also you should be able to set a status on an item if it should be tracked or not in the buy list. Sometimes you stop trading an item for a while, and you don't want the list to be full of reds.(meaning the item will be in my buy-list, but won't change colors).

2)Add an option for each account to recieve 1(or 2, or 3, or how many seems reasnoble) if you have been out-bidded on that specific order.
The reasoning is not for us traders who check their orders, but for the PvPers who don't bother with the market because keeping track of it is insane. This is why the limit is for ONE order. or TWO. not 250 orders.(this should have a minimal effect on lag aswell).
especially useful for orders on different regions, or nullsec orders that are left for 3 months without checking.
Actually the more i think about it the less this feature is really needed, yet i'm not too sure if it would hurt.
most traders would not use it, it's for the non-traders to get into the market for a bit.

blurp

This thread entirely dedicated to it is running since years...

Example graph.

Also, most of the issues presented in this thread would be instantly fixed by implementing a live market data feed like every electronic exchange does.

Having reliable and sanitized data available i.e. thru API calls or a queue system would make way way easier to implement websites like EvEMarketeer that already show orders books, candle graphs and so on.

The ability to hire one of the millions of peasants or janitors to continually adjust my orders.


but really, the ability of market orders in custom folders/tabs and items hanger in custom folders/tabs would be great.

Annoying localization problem

The ingame calculator does not work with the numpad's decimal button if the decimal separator is not a dot (.) in Windows' regional settings.
Just try the hungarian settings (our dec.separator is a comma) to see the problem.

I don't see eve releasing a purely trade based expansion (stuff that is not war is boring, a burning ship captures imagination more than a sci-fi new york stock extange), but the lot of ideas I support, and hope/expect ccp will incorporate them, we do after all have yellow orders currently.

Suggestions are though more fitting for assembly hall.

It would be awesome if the forums worked correctly.
I posted a link to this thread in the Hall.

I told Xaqa about my ideas for improving corporate management. He wanted me to post this so I am.

1. A new ingame spreadsheet window. This will allow spreadsheets to be made in game and with the ability to share them to other players accordingly. This will allow traders and directors alike from having to switch between windows. The ability to format the spreadsheet to automatically update itself from the personal/corporate wallet (wallet, journal, transactions, bills, and some the features requested in this forum like my weekly income, expenses, and profit calculator), market prices, planetary interaction, and industry.

2. Shareholders should have more abilities with the shares. They should have to fight to get into a corporation to claim CEO-ship. This should be able to be done from a NPC or another player corporation. (if there is no stasis period preventing the ability to leave from a player corporation) An option of being able to appoint individual directors of 6 of the 7 divisions would be appreciated, considering the Vice CEO being the Director of the 1st Division and should be be appointed by the CEO and approved by directors. This will maintain the CEO's and if CEO is not present, Vice CEO, the ability to be tie breaker and the ability to execute passed votes. If this last idea of individual directors and a Vice CEO does come about, shareholders should be able to should be able to replace the CEO with the Vice CEO if the CEO has been absent for more than 1 to 2 weeks and default to replace CEO with the Vice CEO if the CEO resigns.

3. A new feature to make day trading corporate shares possible through an option of corporation types of private and public. Shares of a public corporation can be value at two options, value or demand. Value will place the share value at the value of all items if instantly sold at it position plus the wallet divided by the number of shares not owned by the corporation. Demand will value shares by how many are not in the corporate wallet, and the minimum share value, when no shares are being sold, will be the corporate value per share. To prevent exploiting, A corporation cannot go back to a private corporation without shareholders giving 100% vote approval. Starting share value of a corporation share of a public corporation will use the value divided by the shares already not owned by the corporation.

4. For share to be valued like this will require a new feature of corporate owned ships. So all ships owned by the corp not in hanger can be used to value you a corporation and allow the corporation to own its own fleets and assign ships to members. These ships value will include everything fitted on the ship and the ship itself. To refit one of these ships should require fitting manager or a new role for fitting the ships in the corporate fleet.

5. If a ship is stolen out of the corporate fleet specified earlier, as in leaving the corporation with it in you hanger, insurance should pay the payout to the corporation. A stolen ship is no different as a destroyed ship. A stolen ships should go through some process of being shot by CONCORD and deemed not able to be sold in high security space or in systems that are owned by that corporation and its alliance. CONCORD should have an arrival delay to give some chance of making it to low security space or out of the original owner's sovereignty, just not enough to use it for what is is meant to be used for, like mining and combat. That is what low security space is for, outlaws. Alliance should have the option to respect each other stolen ships.

6. A new feature to the corporate wallets to calculate income weekly and profit weekly. This will make it easier for CEOs to calculate the dividends. A total weekly costs should be add to help CEOs know how much is being spent vs. how much is being made. These features might be able to be accessible to shareholders.

This will turn this from just trading to the whole New Eden Universe's economy. I hope to see his public comments on this soon.

I told that to Xaqa before he placed this forum. I agree with it. To have a exchange is one thing, anyone can create a mailing list for that, but for a way to automate corporate share value would be nice. Less work for CEOs who have lives.