EVE General Discussion

There's always something to keep you busy in game. Be thankful whatever things bug (<--pun) you, at least they're not game breaking*.




* in a sense that the game won't even launch or crashes constantly.

Have to agree with this guy. The tier system needs a serious revamp. If you see more T2 skins of soms ships than their t1 counterpart - even though they cost 30 times as much - there's something seriously wrong with balances.

And well .. I really wouldn't mind if some (read: a lot of) ships would look a bit better. It would attract more players and I can't seriously see anyone leaving because the Moa suddenly looks pretty!!

If you have any other stuff from the last time your tinfoil hat fell off, please, contract it to me.

The comment about armour tanking was really just because of the inherent disfunction of armor tanks on sub bs hulls in open space conflicts where speed, agility and fall-off ie minmatar dominate most brawls. Toss in the 'no point using this as minmatar equivalent is better in 3 out of 5 scenarios' nonsense we all know and love and it feels like the variety and challenge in the game is arbitrarily restricted to a handful of ships and fits when it could be far more flavoursome.

Of course you can argue that pvp is complicated enough without effectively putting in 100% more bonused hulls (which is what you would be doing if you balanced tanking/weapon systems and teirs) and that this might actually be off putting to newer players etc. I would not be one of those people.

Tier 1? Loads of suggestions mooted for those. I'd just get rid of the concept of tier one being 'worse' than tier 2 ships and give every race two options for every class instead of the current game-wide 5-6 options for all classes based on fotm and what 'simply works' vs what level of personal handicap you want to play with ie blasters/hybrids/scorch/anything other than autocannons etc.

Edit: To be clear, I am not advocating homogenisation of all hulls and weapon systems. Merely bringing them all slightly closer together by tweaking bonuses and/or stats to provide more options to new and old players alike and consequently more long term value to the game. I'd like to specialise characters for specific roles more and have more gameplay options. S'all.

I've always been surprised CCP allows so many ships and fits to be largely redundant - its basically a massive expansion they don't need to do. They can add in dozens of 'new-old' ships in a single expansion and radically freshen things up without being unable to justify all the dev hours of designing new content. For me, its a design no brainer to make best use of exhisting assets. Balancing everything comprehensively (altho, again, stress NOT homogenising) is the single biggest bang-for-buck project they could do right now.

Haha. Well I am not suggesting CCP buffs everything left right and center - I think thats pretty obviously not the way to do balancing. An iterative approach, where small changes are made and monitored seems best practice. Tweak it a bit, see how it works out, tweak it a bit more, eventually find the sweet spot.

Tier one hulls just need to be brought in line with tier 2, I can't think of a single example where that could not be easily accomplished by very slight changes. Macro economics come in the play, of course, but really, it can't possibly be handled any worse than PI was.

I guess the corporate culture and scrum/agile does not lend itself well to long term consistent iterative micro management on that scale. Which is why, with people doing different things at different times, in different teams which seem to shift like the sands it has never happened.

That and the 'business direction' strategy of 'new features' ad nauseum. Altho I think a rebalance would actually bring more people back to the game.. but evidently the metrics disagree.

You expected CCP to do something in two months?

Ahhhh...

Yeah that makes sense.