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singularity and global criminal flag =)
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-17 10:24:29 UTC
just installed client and tried to play.
undocked. see forgotten reaper nearby. ok. let's shoot him.

CONCORD WARNING! Ok. let's see what will happen. My torpedos didn't hit it and i'm already in capsule. (was in nemesis. I guess this were station guns because CONCORD arrived only after 5-10 seconds). hm... ok.

Dock. Refit. Undock. I have "global criminal flag" from person, owners of this station and concord. Heh. Staring at CONCORD ships (they won't aggro me now, yea?) got targeted and killed by station guns again. Hm...? Shocked

Dock. Refit. Undock. Now i will try to warp somewhere.
NOWAY. "Your warp drivers were disabled". Dock? NOWAY. Few seconds and i'm again in capsule.

Too lazy to check how many ships do i need to loose to clear 1 criminal flag Lol
I guess only sitting in station for 15 minutes will allow to do something.

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gfldex
#2 - 2012-04-17 10:29:27 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
I guess only sitting in station for 15 minutes will allow to do something.


You should be able to warp while being in a pod.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#3 - 2012-04-17 10:32:42 UTC
gfldex wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
I guess only sitting in station for 15 minutes will allow to do something.


You should be able to warp while being in a pod.


I don't know why, maybe I'm just really tired, but I laughed. Hard.
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-17 10:46:24 UTC
You cannot warp at all in a ship while under GCC now in a ship. that means, you cannot dock up and re-ship up then undock expecting to gank another ship...you undock in a new ship it will get station gunned to death. Once GCC happens, you can only gank 1 ship per 15 minutes (multiple if you use smartbomb ship on a cluster of them) and then wait in station or find a deep safe.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#5 - 2012-04-17 11:03:42 UTC
But at least you get to stick around to read the tears in local...

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Nadine Le'Slut
The-Four-HorseMen
#6 - 2012-04-17 11:07:27 UTC
no more warping under GCC?
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?
gfldex
#7 - 2012-04-17 11:19:45 UTC  |  Edited by: gfldex
Nadine Le'**** wrote:
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?


Outlaws may or may not have a GCC.

EDIT: A GCC gained in lowsec may or may not effect the ability to activate your warp drive on a ship in highsec. devblog pending

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-04-17 11:38:30 UTC
I'll give a rats ass about these changes.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-17 11:47:50 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
I'll give a rats ass about these changes.


What does that even mean?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-04-17 12:09:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
March rabbit wrote:
Dock. Refit. Undock. I have "global criminal flag" from person, owners of this station and concord. Heh. Staring at CONCORD ships (they won't aggro me now, yea?) got targeted and killed by station guns again. Hm...? Shocked

Looks like someone never did any PvP in low sec. Station/gate guns have always shot you with GCC.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#11 - 2012-04-17 12:36:36 UTC
Nadine Le'**** wrote:
no more warping under GCC?
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?

Outlaws (-10 status) do not get a GCC unless they attack someone, otherwise its just the faction navies that shoot at them (unsure how this change effects Concord sov).
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#12 - 2012-04-17 12:37:11 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
Nadine Le'**** wrote:
no more warping under GCC?
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?


Some people were reporting being jammed (not just warp, but ecm'ed also) before concord even landed... Not sure if thats true or not.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-17 12:56:10 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Nadine Le'**** wrote:
no more warping under GCC?
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?


Some people were reporting being jammed (not just warp, but ecm'ed also) before concord even landed... Not sure if thats true or not.



My spidey sense tells me that CCP are secretly tweaking with changes that will effect suicide ganking, but they don't want to tell anyone yet in order to avoid a stink.

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Deryk Kyeld
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-04-17 13:28:42 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Nadine Le'**** wrote:
no more warping under GCC?
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?


Some people were reporting being jammed (not just warp, but ecm'ed also) before concord even landed... Not sure if thats true or not.



My spidey sense tells me that CCP are secretly tweaking with changes that will effect suicide ganking, but they don't want to tell anyone yet in order to avoid a stink.


Except that makes no sense since EVE players hate stealth nerfs.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#15 - 2012-04-17 13:38:23 UTC  |  Edited by: JC Anderson
O.o

OP in the following thread is also claiming that Concord immediately began remote repping (BOTH SHIELD AND ARMOR) the Industrial that was under attack.

Now that.... Well thats something that REALLY needs to be addressed if so.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97322&find=unread

Going to need to head to SiSi to see if that is true.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-17 14:29:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Deryk Kyeld wrote:

Except that makes no sense since EVE players hate stealth nerfs.



CCP does not always make sense do they?
They do however nerf everything that gets overused by the player base. So if not now, they may very well do it soon.

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#17 - 2012-04-17 16:03:35 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
JC Anderson wrote:
Nadine Le'**** wrote:
no more warping under GCC?
also what about dem outlaws when they enter hisec empire?


Some people were reporting being jammed (not just warp, but ecm'ed also) before concord even landed... Not sure if thats true or not.



My spidey sense tells me that CCP are secretly tweaking with changes that will effect suicide ganking, but they don't want to tell anyone yet in order to avoid a stink.


Except it's hardly a secret; there was a thread about the ECM jamming days ago, so your spidey sense has failed you again. :)

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#18 - 2012-04-17 16:07:04 UTC
…and the difference (aside from all timers being showed) is?
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#19 - 2012-04-17 16:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Wacktopia
Quote:
You cannot warp at all in a ship while under GCC now in a ship. that means, you cannot dock up and re-ship up then undock expecting to gank another ship...you undock in a new ship it will get station gunned to death. Once GCC happens, you can only gank 1 ship per 15 minutes (multiple if you use smartbomb ship on a cluster of them) and then wait in station or find a deep safe.


Oh! So is this part of the amazing, new Crime Watch system?

Sounds like more changes to flush hi-sec down the toilet.

- Why do we even need this?
- What's so wrong with ganking that CCP cannot handle?
- Why are they not really explaining their motive for these changes?

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gfldex
#20 - 2012-04-17 17:41:12 UTC
I just check, you can't change ships in space with a GCC in highsec anymore. Lowsec seams to be uneffected by these changes.

One gank per 15 minutes or one every 6 minutes if you skill all chars on that account.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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