EVE General Discussion

When my wife does it, she's a sociopath.

I, on the other hand, am a mogul.

Ehm. You really didn't think that one through, did you?

Overcoming adversity and loss is the entire business of suicide ganking. You take an assured loss (in more ways than one), and try to plan your attack in such a way that you can overcome it.

You mean those trillions that people foolishly buy because they need it to overcome various forms of adversity and loss?

Moar BS

Sorry to have to break it to you, but Grief and TearMail is the entire business of suicide ganking.

Not business, no. That's more of a hobby at that point, and the overcoming loss part is still the same, only with different reward structures. In fact, if it's tears the ganker is after, the adversity portion kicks in even harder — he now has an actual player opponent that needs to be beaten, rather than it being a numbers game.


…also, you probably want to look at the studies on the topic being published later this autumn before calling BS on stuff like that.

EVE is a sub-culture. Some kind of real second virtual life. It's a tough hard to learn game what needs months and years of effort and work. A lot of goals in EVE are long term goals and can't be reached within a few weeks. Everything ingame will become a value. Losing stuff triggers emo. I never experienced this kind of adrenaline boost and thrill when fighting in a computer game and losing stuff. Computer game? EVE is far more than this.

The identification with your char, skills and personal skills is strong. EVE is communication. It's a parallel universe and it needs a lot of patience to skill, fly right and finally experience the butterfly effect. When you start like i did, in hi-sec with PvE you see it more like a normal game. When you enter low-sec the first time you will learn that this game is reckless and rude. When you stay in low-sec you will feel that there's something behind the scenes. When you join an intel channel or a bigger PvP corp the first time the game is changing completely. When you join an alliance you experience bigger politics up to fleet fights which are organized on some kind of military level. When you roam solo through null-sec you are thrilled all the time. When you start you can't imagine that you ever fly bigger ships worth 1-2 billion. And some day you are flying them all the time.

The community affects the development. EVE is a dynamic universe with changes every day. EVE's social and economy system is special and complex. When I played SWTOR I lost interest within a month because this game is compared to EVE pure linear entertainment. Great storytelling. Sure. But EVE is totally different because in a group you create a story.

EVE can be 90% boring most of the time but exactly the 10% awesomeness and the killmails keeps me playing it.

The game is not made for the casual player. EVE is work. EVE is extreme. EVE can be a part of your life-style. EVE evolution is slow and it's good as it is. CCP would end up in big trouble if tomorrow 1 mil people would subscribe due to a Super Bowl commercial

Maybe this is it. In other MMOPGs their "wealth" is measured in there experience points. Hours of there work turn into better abilities, which can't be taken away and players feel like they have gained something.. That doesn't apply to Eve and most gamers probably don't like games where hours and hours of there efforts are turned to dust in an instant in numerous ways... I guess that's the fundamental difference in Eve and makes it unique.

Personally I don't mind loss as long as the ratio of loss to gain is even average loss = average gain. Having supercap blobs insta-hotdropping doesn't seem like its much of an end-game.

LOL @ traditional vet tears

Because of:
- T3 Booster (who's not using them?)
- Logistics (more Guardians, more Absos, more Scimis, more Sleipnirs... win win win)
- Blobs (they are flying in a fleet, you noob are not)
- PL Hot Drops (a fleet of bored and bot-rich supercap pilots)
- ECM drones (real annyoing because they spwan everywhere and your ECCM is never strong enough)

Who cares about a dead 70-80km optimal useless Falcon?
Well, imagine all this above at top belt Amamake and just decloak a Falcon at 100 clicks:
"F*CK OFF WITH YOUR FALCON!"

In EVE you can take and steal from other players without hacking an account.

And where is the fun in EVERY "game" being like that? By that logic, screw chess, just everyone play checkers.

And I disagree about the nature of EVE. Most people I've met in EVE were cool folks who were helpful to me. Hell the 1st guy who killed me in low sec (which I ventured into after 2 months of playing just to see what it was all about) gave me isk to buy a new rifter (i've been scared of Brutixes eve since lol) .

EVE is like life in general, mostly cool harmless folks living in some form of gated community (High sec lol) who mainly want to be left alone (solo) or who mingle in small groups, with a tiny fringe of certified lunitics (null sec PVPrs/pirates/griefers/scammers ect ect) making all the waves.

It's just that the tiny fringe gets all the face time on the news lol. EVE is like America, not nearly as dangerous as outsiders like to think it is, but hell on a naive idiot :).

which in EVE would be more like:

[A]: do I see right, is that a IMPERIAL ISSUE ARMAGEDDON and he is alone and afk
[B]: you are right, I scanned it OFFICER fitting, I called the guys, hope he stays undocked long enough
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[C-Z] READY TO GANK on three, two, one...FIRE