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Desperation... can you smell it?
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Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-16 23:32:41 UTC
Just got an email from Star Wars the Old Republic


Quote:
We are so excited about Game Update 1.2: Legacy, that we are offering you a limited time opportunity to come back and play at no charge until April 20, 11:59PM CDT / April 20, 4:59AM GMT. Plus, reactivate your former account by April 22, 12:00PM CDT, 5:00PM GMT, to get the in-game Legacy reward: the Legacy Tauntaun Pet**!

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Shalia Ripper
#2 - 2012-04-16 23:37:26 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Legacy reward: the Legacy Tauntaun Pet**!


And I thought marketing desperation smelled bad on the outside!




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Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-16 23:39:06 UTC
Shalia Ripper wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Legacy reward: the Legacy Tauntaun Pet**!


And I thought marketing desperation smelled bad on the outside!







you get a like lol

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-17 01:21:08 UTC
My friend that plays this was trying to get me back into the game again today. (I ran a char to 50 then got bored and stopped logging in)

Something about Rackgouls I think? And lightsaber crystals?

I had to explain, there isn't anything they could add to that game, or offer me, to bring me back. They would need a new, more interesting game for that.

For me, it just has nothing to offer but a moderately interesting storyline that (due to it being an MMO grindfest) can never come to fruition.

Call me when this thing fails terribly, they call it a mistake, and release KotOR 3.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-04-17 01:24:02 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
My friend that plays this was trying to get me back into the game again today. (I ran a char to 50 then got bored and stopped logging in)

Something about Rackgouls I think? And lightsaber crystals?

I had to explain, there isn't anything they could add to that game, or offer me, to bring me back. They would need a new, more interesting game for that.

For me, it just has nothing to offer but a moderately interesting storyline that (due to it being an MMO grindfest) can never come to fruition.

Call me when this thing fails terribly, they call it a mistake, and release KotOR 3.



Its a Star Wars skinned WoW clone once you start skipping the "ooo shiny" talking bits they prop up so often

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-04-17 01:28:03 UTC
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
My friend that plays this was trying to get me back into the game again today. (I ran a char to 50 then got bored and stopped logging in)

Something about Rackgouls I think? And lightsaber crystals?

I had to explain, there isn't anything they could add to that game, or offer me, to bring me back. They would need a new, more interesting game for that.

For me, it just has nothing to offer but a moderately interesting storyline that (due to it being an MMO grindfest) can never come to fruition.

Call me when this thing fails terribly, they call it a mistake, and release KotOR 3.



Its a Star Wars skinned WoW clone once you start skipping the "ooo shiny" talking bits they prop up so often


I never played WoW, it looked like a terrible game for people easily amused. More of an opiate than a excitement.

If TOR is the clone everyone says it is, apparently I was right.
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-04-17 01:41:15 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
Richard Hammond II wrote:
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
My friend that plays this was trying to get me back into the game again today. (I ran a char to 50 then got bored and stopped logging in)

Something about Rackgouls I think? And lightsaber crystals?

I had to explain, there isn't anything they could add to that game, or offer me, to bring me back. They would need a new, more interesting game for that.

For me, it just has nothing to offer but a moderately interesting storyline that (due to it being an MMO grindfest) can never come to fruition.

Call me when this thing fails terribly, they call it a mistake, and release KotOR 3.



Its a Star Wars skinned WoW clone once you start skipping the "ooo shiny" talking bits they prop up so often


I never played WoW, it looked like a terrible game for people easily amused. More of an opiate than a excitement.

If TOR is the clone everyone says it is, apparently I was right.


it is, it really is. I was in ToR beta and quit that to restart my WoW account lol

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-04-17 03:46:24 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REHisUBYUjo

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-04-17 04:31:20 UTC
WoW was fun for a few months. TOR died in a month because of no decent content.

the sad thing is, biofail will declare it to be a success since they made profit.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#10 - 2012-04-17 13:54:51 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
the sad thing is, biofail will declare it to be a success since they made profit.


By most standards, that *is* success. Just not as much as they would like it to be.

The problem any MMO has in today's market is they have to compete with the WoW juggernaut. I think TOR tried to duplicate its success by duplicating its style. The problem there is that WoW players who come over to TOR think "it's no different, and I've got a lot more invested into WoW. I'm going back" while the rest of us think "If I wanted to play WoW, I'd go play WoW. There's a reason I don't."

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stoicfaux
#11 - 2012-04-17 15:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:

The problem any MMO has in today's market is they have to compete with the WoW juggernaut. I think TOR tried to duplicate its success by duplicating its style. The problem there is that WoW players who come over to TOR think "it's no different, and I've got a lot more invested into WoW. I'm going back" while the rest of us think "If I wanted to play WoW, I'd go play WoW. There's a reason I don't."

Eh, I'm going to disagree. I think Bioware didn't want to create a WoW clone and instead wanted to differentiate themselves and/or advance the mmorpg genre with Bioware's Patented Storytelling & Plot mechanics. Unfortunately, IMHO, I think that they wound up falling back to cloning WoW when they realized that storytelling content is expensive and time consuming to create and doesn't have a lot of replay value. Content costs combined with Bioware's MMO inexperience plus probable pressure from investors who were focused on making quick money on the Star Wars brand over creating a long term game, and we get a WoW clone with really bright swords.

/entirely_speculative_&_IMHO

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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-17 15:27:34 UTC
I think they just didnt want to take a risk on game play. Focus on voice acting as their nuance. But I think everyone is tired of this formula in terms of gameplay. Min/Max armor/weapons...Mash buttons, same classes (Tank, Healer, RDPS,MDPS) Hell at least AOC messed with the formula... too bad they ****** up the quality assurance, and went instanced.

Here's to hoping for better things.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-17 16:45:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
the sad thing is, biofail will declare it to be a success since they made profit.


By most standards, that *is* success. Just not as much as they would like it to be.

The problem any MMO has in today's market is they have to compete with the WoW juggernaut. I think TOR tried to duplicate its success by duplicating its style. The problem there is that WoW players who come over to TOR think "it's no different, and I've got a lot more invested into WoW. I'm going back" while the rest of us think "If I wanted to play WoW, I'd go play WoW. There's a reason I don't."


also that they spent years telling us it was gonna BE different and then when it wasnt everyone was pissed


also, StoicFaux, This is "why"

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-02-10-bioware-warcraft-is-the-touchstone-for-old-republic

Quote:
Speaking on the keynote panel today at the DICE Summit in Vegas, BioWare's Greg Zeschuk said that the company is following the rules established by Blizzard's subscription fantasy MMO.

"It is a touchstone. It has established standards, it's established how you play an MMO. Every MMO that comes out, I play and look at it. And if they break any of the WoW rules, in my book that's pretty dumb," Zeschuk told the audience. "If you have established standards, WoW established them."


the WHY is cause BioWare are idiots

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Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-17 23:23:02 UTC
I still play SWTOR from time to time and I find it an enjoyable break from EvE.

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