Ships & Modules

He probably is, because they do. All T2 and T3 hulls have a unique resist profile on their shields and armor which is influenced by the damage types used by the weapon systems of the opposing faction.

./end condescension

Also, lasers are reasonable as is. Only major gripe the majority of people have is that Scorch is just so good that it kinda renders Beams (with the exception of Tachyons) a little useless. And with Tachyons, the fitting is just utterly insane, probably more so than it should be.

TANK. ALL THE DAMAGE TYPES.

See my point?

Edit - In case you don't. Minmatar deal Omni, so CCP went and spun a wheel to see which one got the short stick, it doesn't have to make sense, it's motherf*cking CCP. Simmer down cupcake.

congratulations. YOU now see MY point.

Why should I use more than 3 low slots for resists on Zealot? When Minmatar pilots don't have to use any slots for resists.

Probably the reason why no-one uses Amarr ships outside of PVE.

Now let me pick your argument and remember you that Thermal/Kin is the highest resist profile for every T2 decently fitted ship, but well it's blasters dmg profile.

I find it amazing when people cry about lasers when those are very clearly the most balanced weapon type in the game.

I'm a bit confused because I'm really bad at this game. Can you please show me the proper way to fit a Zealot and Vagabond/Muninn? Thanks.

-Liang

I opened up eft to have a look at my earlier comparison between a zealot and a vaga, and will address this post using the numbers I found

Well, for starters, there's no real way to get a vaga to OD a zealot at any range under 40km or so, due to the combination of instant ammo swapping + superior damage overall

Then there's the fact that while you're not putting resist mods on your vaga, what ends up happening is that (assuming you fit a DCII, though that's more a matter of preference than a requirement on a vaga) your highest resist is going to be 78% EM, with the others at 65, 47, and 56.

A zealot on the other hand, using 3 lows for resists + a DCII (I used a nano plating, EANM and thermic hardener, though again, YMMV depending on the exact fit) the zealots LOWEST resist is EM, with 73, the others being 82,80, and 89. The zealot also has ~57k EHP vs the vagas 36k.

Equally noteworthy is the fact that if you were to REMOVE all the resist mods from a zealot (except the DCII), it would still have an average resist of 63, versus the standard (though with a DCII as well) vagabond which has an average resist of 61.5 You're complaining about how amazing the resists on a matari ship are, while not realizing that amarr get a resist profile that's just as good (though it is worth noting that the resist hole on amarr ships is slightly worse, 44,8% vs 47.5% for minmatar). People fit more resist mods onto amarr ships because they CAN. You simply dont have the slots to do with a minmatar ship what you can do with an amarrian one when it comes to tanking, which is why a pulse using ship will pretty much always destroy an AC using ship in a straight up brawl (aside from the cane, which as I've said before DOES need a nerf)

EDIT: Because this post is stupid enough to warrant special attention:

Last I checked, people dont usually fit ship scanners when it comes time to brawl, so at best they can take a guess as to what your lowest resist is and shoot at it. Also, pulse ships have the lows needed to fit tank AND damage mods, whereas minmatar ships tend to have to forfeit tackle if they want more than 2-3 slots to tank their shields.

Going back to my zealot and vaga example, (though I changed the fit slightly to plug the em hole, IIRC the standard fit entails using an em/therm hardener + a NP anyway) The vaga, shooting the best ammo it can at the zealot (faction phased plasma) while the zealot shoots faction multifreq back at the vaga, the zealot will be doing 191 DPS after resists, and the vaga will be doing 117 back to the zealot, with both having similar levels of raw HP. This means that even if you got lucky and loaded the right kind of ammo into your vaga, you'd still only be doing ~60% of the damage after resists, (it's also worth noting for this comparison I slapped a third damage mod on the vaga, while leaving the zealot at 2)

The ability to PLUG a resist hole is much better then the ability to exploit one.

Why would you fly blaster ships in fleets?

And yes yes yes, every one knows how elite pvp you are and how I love blobs of 10 players or 20 or even 30.... not sure if serious but yes I still use blaster ships unlike you think, when we gate camp.

o/

If you have a hard time hitting a vagabond with a zealot, you're doing something wrong.

This thread isn't about fleets, and frankly the fact that blasters don't perform well in fleets is ... well, expected. Working As Intended(tm), move along please.

-Liang