EVE General Discussion

I agree with the idea of keeping the ammount of space people can hold to a minimum, but CCP must be careful in the implementation of such a change, don't let them run with the 'we assume less will do it because it's expensive as ****'.
That was what they did with Dominion; that didn't stop major alliances from holding the space they had before.

There will always be people or groups with more ISK than you can possibly imagine, and the best restriction in that sense is an actual timer. It works for skills and sov levels, so why not the actual act of expanding sov too?

Maybe sovreignity should depend more on the actual 'geography' of the space it is located in? I'm not sure myself how that would work out, but ideas are cheap and well worth just throwing out there.


In any case, it's already been said in this thread; the major issue that face new, smaller alliances and corps moving into 0.0 is the fact that the already established coalitions, bluetrains and otherwise massive powerblocks do not allow them to exist.

Why would you allow anyone into space you can project power into if they'll just become an enemy later on?
Isn't it easier to just exterminate them before they even get a foothold?

I know I would...

Yo dawg, I heard you like trolling forums, so I put a troll post in your NPC alt troll post, so you can troll while you troll.

What would happen if CCP dropped the entire alliance mechanic from the game and made it every corp for themselves?

Do you guys figure that corps would band together anyways and form napfests without the ability to form an alliance supported by game mechanics?

I do not believe it is chiefly a matter of game mechanics.

Whether you give Somali or Rwandan warlords bows and arrow or AK-47s or Nukes, they will exactly behave in the same way.

And if you try to have them hold elections or have a legal system or a market-based economy etc, it always fails and the place remains wretchedly poor and deserted just as before.

It is a problem of mentality, not of rules.

Enlighten us. Please ! ...

Yeah like us and russia, uk and ireland chiba and korea , germany and the rest of the planet... you just suck dude, get yor life sorted

When anything goes wrong, we all LOVE to blame the boss, it is so esay ! And so comfortable for our ego ...

In this case, how easy it is to bash CCP all the time !

But to try to look inward and see what WE are doing wrong, well, that is less easy ...

And to invite others to do so has never been a receipe for popularity. Well, that is the way things are.

As a matter of fact, I worked for several years in Djibouti, which has a common border with Somaliland.

Of course, compared to the southen part of Somalia, Somaliland looks like a paradise. Gang warfare there kills "only" a few hundred people a year instead of running into the thousands like in the rest of the country. Great! Somaliland is also the place where most of the goods stolen by Somali pirates get sold and it is fast becoming the trading hub of the region: child labor (i.e. slavery), prostitution, drugs (khat mostly) and contraband with neighboring Ethiopia (which means that the Ethiopian government loses hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes each year which are not spent on schools, hospitals, roads etc. but on luxury villas and fancy 4WD for the trafickers gang bosses).

Want to continue ?

I work for UNICEF.

Get compliment from Mendolus; feel like you're a part of the 'good forum posters league'.
**** yeah!


On topic however:



Good, you asked a question! Or did you? I didn't see a questionmark.
Q: Why not try to establish a win-win relationship with them: they get protection from you and you get taxes from them.
A: This is already happening, alliances have renters (read: pets). Unfortunately the only real protection they get is the name of the alliance they rented their space from; and here's the big 'HOWEVER':

Problem here is that taking **** from larger entities isn't a very compelling option for a lot of people, and a common analogy there would be:
"Bend over or GTFO"

Take that as you want.

EDIT:

Okay, so let me shoot a question back at you:
In EVE Online, why would you let anyone take something from you if you did not benefit from it?

Don't take that as a heartless question, I'm human too, but this is EVE Online, not Somalia; there is no reward in throwing space away, I don't get that warm fuzzy feeling from doing charity work in a game about taking opportunities; I get that warm fuzzy feeling when I put my guns on a Hulk and see it pop, read the rage in local, but most of all when I find the expensive mods it had fitted.