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The Best Anti-Burn Jita Strategy

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Serene Repose
#21 - 2012-04-16 02:57:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Lapine Davion wrote:
Why are you so against this happening, instead of getting highsec security to come fight them? It really in an incredible opportunity.
Or do you just want everyone to play nice in the sandbox and never try to hurt anyone else inside of it?

I'm NOT "so" against "this happening." I see no "this" happening. If you missed the point, allow me to clarify. If the solution is so simple, there must not be a problem.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

T-B0NE
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-04-16 02:57:24 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
They've said they're only targeting freighters and haulers. Why would they waste their time on anything else?
shh, let the white knights do their thing.

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-04-16 02:57:46 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Remember the interdiction? How long was that?

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Serene Repose
#24 - 2012-04-16 02:58:37 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Wow, just kind of throwing out the hard diagnoses there, huh? I'm fairly certain (though not 100%) that I am not a sociopath. I just play one on the internet.

Denial isn't a river in Africa.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-04-16 02:59:14 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Wow, just kind of throwing out the hard diagnoses there, huh? I'm fairly certain (though not 100%) that I am not a sociopath. I just play one on the internet.


You dont look to have a Goon tag... as thats who Serene was talking about

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#26 - 2012-04-16 03:02:12 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Wow, just kind of throwing out the hard diagnoses there, huh? I'm fairly certain (though not 100%) that I am not a sociopath. I just play one on the internet.

Denial isn't a river in Africa.


No kidding. But the Nile is definitely a river in Africa.

May i ask for clarification though. Do you think that Goons are sociopaths in real life, or that they are just so in game?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Serene Repose
#27 - 2012-04-16 03:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Remember the interdiction? How long was that?

If by "interdiction" you're referring to the demonstration against the update that went nowhere, there was a playerbase-wide resistance to that, and it wasn't hard to muster active support. This Burn Jita thing is an ego-gratification device dreamed up by Mitt to prove (mainly to himself) that he and his boyz have a stranglehold on the game, and can exert such momentous influence as to threaten the existence of the game itself. As the premise is delusional, but the holder of the view is so obnoxious, a little pin the tail on the donkey just might be in order.

Lapine Davion wrote:
May i ask for clarification though. Do you think that Goons are sociopaths in real life, or that they are just so in game?

I don't say anyone is anything IRL unless I know them personally, and even then you can't be sure. Thing with the Mitt/CCP nexus is they don't confine it to the game, so you do get a glimpse. If it looks like a duck...and it walks like a duck....

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-04-16 03:03:22 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Wow, just kind of throwing out the hard diagnoses there, huh? I'm fairly certain (though not 100%) that I am not a sociopath. I just play one on the internet.

Denial isn't a river in Africa.


No kidding. But the Nile is definitely a river in Africa.

May i ask for clarification though. Do you think that Goons are sociopaths in real life, or that they are just so in game?


I say Mittens is a real one in real life an let his mask slip, blaming it on alcohol

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-04-16 03:04:37 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
cute; you believe them
funniest rumor Ive heard is that CCP will ban anyone that attacks Jita lol

I've said numerous times only fools believe a Goon. What I DO believe is, true to the definition of a sociopath, they're easily frustrated by no immediate reward, and get bored quickly. Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.


Remember the interdiction? How long was that?

If by "interdiction" you're referring to the demonstration against the update that went nowhere, there was a playerbase-wide resistance to that, and it wasn't hard to muster active support. This Burn Jita thing is an ego-gratification device dreamed up by Mitt to prove (mainly to himself) that he and his boyz have a stranglehold on the game, and can exert such momentous influence as to threaten the existence of the game itself. As the premise is delusional, but the holder of the view is so obnoxious, a little pin the tail on the donkey just might be in order.



-.-

the ICE Interdiction
Focus your fevered eyes bud, we're talking Goons here

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Serene Repose
#30 - 2012-04-16 03:07:09 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
the ICE Interdiction
Focus your fevered eyes bud, we're talking Goons here

Ah yes, that. Couldn't say either way if that was effective or not. It didn't seem to cause much of an uproar. Tippia probably crunched the numbers on that. I'm just a trucker.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-04-16 03:09:36 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
the ICE Interdiction
Focus your fevered eyes bud, we're talking Goons here

Ah yes, that. Couldn't say either way if that was effective or not. It didn't seem to cause much of an uproar. Tippia probably crunched the numbers on that. I'm just a trucker.


wasnt talking impact I was askinghow long it was

as your premise was they all are sociopaths with ADD and will move on quickly

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Serene Repose
#32 - 2012-04-16 03:09:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
T-B0NE wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Our time honored response to these sorts of people is to wait them out. They wander off soon enough.
lol you really think that's gonna work in THIS game, with THAT crew?
Mitt's running out of brilliant ideas. When he's humiliated by the complete waste of time this was, his next EVE shaking notion will come off like a Scooter Plan to end the Goons once and for all. I have confidence that the nature of existence extends beyond the intellectual might of the miniscule.
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
wasnt talking impact I was askinghow long it was
as your premise was they all are sociopaths with ADD and will move on quickly

We'll find out, won't we?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#33 - 2012-04-16 03:12:50 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:


I say Mittens is a real one in real life an let his mask slip, blaming it on alcohol


Have you ever met him and seen him show any signs of such behavior outside of being sloppily drunk?

I don't think it outside the realm of possibility that, in an altered state, he might say something that he thought was funny, which turned out to be offensive to others. It certainly wouldn't be the first time in human history that that has happened.

But of course, you are right and The Mittani is just a secret sociopathic serial killer who let his mask slip when he got drunk. That is the simpler explanation.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-04-16 03:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Lapine Davion wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:


I say Mittens is a real one in real life an let his mask slip, blaming it on alcohol


Have you ever met him and seen him show any signs of such behavior outside of being sloppily drunk?

I don't think it outside the realm of possibility that, in an altered state, he might say something that he thought was funny, which turned out to be offensive to others. It certainly wouldn't be the first time in human history that that has happened.

But of course, you are right and The Mittani is just a secret sociopathic serial killer who let his mask slip when he got drunk. That is the simpler explanation.


Tran sarcasm detection plz you missed it
HONESTLY I think ppl who see sociopathology to such a degree thay may wanna look within themselves instead

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Serene Repose
#35 - 2012-04-16 03:17:04 UTC
"Methinks the lady doth protest too much." - Willie the Shake -

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

clonkrieger
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2012-04-16 03:17:54 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
On the 27th pull out any ship you have there, unless you want to try to follow in local for grins. At any rate, don't undock anything on the 28th. If the only thing flying are Goon ships, they're gonna have a helluva time staring at each other, wondering why Mitt said this was such a great idea. Mitt, the mighty leader....burn Jita. Yeah, right.

The funny part will be with no targets, the Goons complaining in local...while their complaints are scrolled out of chat by Jita spam bots. They won't even be able to smack talk.


What you're saying is possibly what he want's.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-04-16 03:18:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Kengutsi Akira
Serene Repose wrote:
"Methinks the lady doth protest too much." - Willie the Shake -


thats actually what I was saying

clonkrieger wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
On the 27th pull out any ship you have there, unless you want to try to follow in local for grins. At any rate, don't undock anything on the 28th. If the only thing flying are Goon ships, they're gonna have a helluva time staring at each other, wondering why Mitt said this was such a great idea. Mitt, the mighty leader....burn Jita. Yeah, right.

The funny part will be with no targets, the Goons complaining in local...while their complaints are scrolled out of chat by Jita spam bots. They won't even be able to smack talk.


What you're saying is likely what he want's.


That way even if they DONT do anything he can stroke his ego and go "look! I shut down Jita just by the rumor we'd do something bwa ha haaa"

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes

Serene Repose
#38 - 2012-04-16 03:20:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
clonkrieger wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
On the 27th pull out any ship you have there, unless you want to try to follow in local for grins. At any rate, don't undock anything on the 28th. If the only thing flying are Goon ships, they're gonna have a helluva time staring at each other, wondering why Mitt said this was such a great idea. Mitt, the mighty leader....burn Jita. Yeah, right.

The funny part will be with no targets, the Goons complaining in local...while their complaints are scrolled out of chat by Jita spam bots. They won't even be able to smack talk.


What you're saying is possibly what he want's.

Who cares what he wants? What he wants is what his minions have been told to say, "wrecks littering Jita..." And, trade coming to a halt. All proficient traders don't have to actually be IN Jita to continue doing business. What he wants can't be done if we don't want it done.

Kengutsi Akira wrote:
That way even if they DONT do anything he can stroke his ego and go "look! I shut down Jita just by the rumor we'd do something bwa ha haaa"

And there's your stroke of brilliance, Kengutsi. He's going to claim success regardless. Just don't lose anything to him.
Let the delusional delude himself.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

clonkrieger
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-04-16 03:23:02 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
clonkrieger wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
On the 27th pull out any ship you have there, unless you want to try to follow in local for grins. At any rate, don't undock anything on the 28th. If the only thing flying are Goon ships, they're gonna have a helluva time staring at each other, wondering why Mitt said this was such a great idea. Mitt, the mighty leader....burn Jita. Yeah, right.

The funny part will be with no targets, the Goons complaining in local...while their complaints are scrolled out of chat by Jita spam bots. They won't even be able to smack talk.


What you're saying is possibly what he want's.

Who cares what he wants? What he wants is what his minions have been told to say, "wrecks littering Jita..." And, trade coming to a halt. All proficient traders don't have to actually be IN Jita to continue doing business. What he wants can't be done if we don't want it done.


No. I would expect heartache in the meantime though. It's win win for him, either way, he's got a reaction.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#40 - 2012-04-16 03:24:02 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
"Methinks the lady doth protest too much." - Willie the Shake -


thats actually what I was saying

clonkrieger wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
On the 27th pull out any ship you have there, unless you want to try to follow in local for grins. At any rate, don't undock anything on the 28th. If the only thing flying are Goon ships, they're gonna have a helluva time staring at each other, wondering why Mitt said this was such a great idea. Mitt, the mighty leader....burn Jita. Yeah, right.

The funny part will be with no targets, the Goons complaining in local...while their complaints are scrolled out of chat by Jita spam bots. They won't even be able to smack talk.


What you're saying is likely what he want's.


That way even if they DONT do anything he can stroke his ego and go "look! I shut down Jita just by the rumor we'd do something bwa ha haaa"


I think I get what you are saying. You just say it in a confusing way, mang.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]