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C'mon Britain get over it.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1 - 2012-04-15 21:40:49 UTC
George Washington: Britain's Greatest Foe


If it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion.

Ironically, the event that was the first nail in the coffin was personally led by.......... George Washington. He presided over squashing what was an expected outcome to the Constitution.

So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British.


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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-15 22:14:47 UTC
To be honest I'm pretty sure everyone in the 18th century was a **** P

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#3 - 2012-04-15 23:15:56 UTC
I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have.

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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#4 - 2012-04-15 23:31:16 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have.


This.

But why let pesky little details like the facts get in the way of making a good political point?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#5 - 2012-04-16 04:51:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have.



Yeah we tried that in the USA naming places after great native chiefs but the meaning is lost on most people and frankly it's a little sick.


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Quote:
In June of 1775, George Washington was appointed Major General and elected by Congress to be commander in chief of the American revolutionary forces. Although he took up his tasks energetically, Washington accomplished nothing militarily for the remainder of the year and more, nor did he try. His only campaign in 1775 was internal rather than external; it was directed against the American army as he found it, and was designed to extirpate the spirit of liberty pervading this unusually individualistic and democratic army of militiamen. In short, Washington set out to transform a people's army, uniquely suited for a libertarian revolution, into another orthodox and despotically ruled statist force after the familiar European model.


Read more... (After reading this, OF COURSE they would put a statue of him in Trafalgar Square).

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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#6 - 2012-04-16 05:04:00 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Which is what tends to happen in a war...

Quote:
Read more... (After reading this, OF COURSE they would put a statue of him in Trafalgar Square).


So, could you point out the part where I said that Washington was perfect and refused to admit that he might have had flaws?

Oh wait, you can't, because I never said that. I just laughed at how you presented an article saying "Washington was a worthy opponent" as "Britain can't get over losing the war".
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#7 - 2012-04-16 05:30:12 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
I see that article and the award as more of a commendation than bitter words. I mean they have a statue of him in Trafalgar Square. Admiration and respect for your enemy are good qualities to have.



Yeah we tried that in the USA naming places after great native chiefs but the meaning is lost on most people and frankly it's a little sick.



A historical name will only bear meaning to those who want it to. George Washington has a significant meaning to us in the US and people in Britain due to the revolution as opposed to somebody in say, China, just as Sitting Bull will have more meaning to a native American than he will to some guy in New York, or Martin Luther King's name bearing more meaning to black people than to white. You can't honestly expect everyone to feel the same level of empathy for every historical figure out there, and if you do then I expect you to tell me how you celebrate Kim Jong Il's birthday.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-04-16 08:58:43 UTC
Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seenBlink
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-16 09:04:47 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seenBlink


I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that.

When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2012-04-16 09:31:27 UTC
Astenion wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seenBlink


I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that.

When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society.


Our empire was still bigger.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-16 09:38:18 UTC
Empires come and go.

I much rather applaud the enlightened that see empires as a great folly to human progress. If we do not unite freely it is just a form of oppression, and why applaud the biggest oppressors?
Whitehound
#12 - 2012-04-16 11:31:46 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
George Washington: Britain's Greatest Foe


If it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion.

Ironically, the event that was the first nail in the coffin was personally led by.......... George Washington. He presided over squashing what was an expected outcome to the Constitution.

So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British.



You are only butthurt that it is not your Adolf. Get over it.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-04-16 12:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Kattshiro
Well I never...


Sidus Isaacs wrote:
Empires come and go.

I much rather applaud the enlightened that see empires as a great folly to human progress. If we do not unite freely it is just a form of oppression, and why applaud the biggest oppressors?


Thearu called said his theory of everyone being belligerent keith Olbermanns, gallivanting around the country side getting thrown in jail with no real way to resolve conflict if everyone is disagreeing all the time, hasn't been quite worked out yet.

Or were you going for John Lennon? His method is admittedly way less "dickish."
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-04-16 14:04:30 UTC
Astenion wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Why would we be bitter? We went on to build the greatest empire the planet has ever seenBlink


I think Rome would like to have a word with you about that.

When you were swinging from trees and dancing around fires with facepaint and wolf pelts, they were literally inventing the next 2000 years of modern society.

Ah, so it's the Romans who are to blame?
Commander Tycho
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
#15 - 2012-04-16 16:09:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Tycho
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


Yeah we tried that in the USA naming places after great native chiefs but the meaning is lost on most people and frankly it's a little sick.





Naming places/ having statues of those you have defeated is not the same as naming places/ having statues of those who defeated you (as a mark of respect).


Also, I dont mean "you" as in you as a person or as a representative of a nation, its general.
Zofe Stormcaller
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-16 17:11:28 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
George Washington: Britain's Greatest Foe


If it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion.

Ironically, the event that was the first nail in the coffin was personally led by.......... George Washington. He presided over squashing what was an expected outcome to the Constitution.

So people who have more than the usual comic book version of history know George Washington as quite a bastard really and not just for the British.



You are only butthurt that it is not your Adolf. Get over it.


Trying to invade Russia in the winter, while trying to invade Europe at the same time isn't exactly a hallmark of military genius.
Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
#17 - 2012-04-16 20:50:52 UTC
I'm just glad to see that Michael Collins got second place, ahead of that idiot Bonaparte.

Name a shrub after me.  Something prickly and hard to eradicate.

Netrome
#18 - 2012-04-16 22:58:24 UTC
Richard Hammond II
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-04-16 23:54:49 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:



If it's any condolence, everything that the colonists fought for was lost in 1789 when the Articles of Confederation were replaced by land speculators. The new document is known as the Constitution. It's first affect was the Whiskey Rebellion.





from someone born an bred in the US:


the whatnow?

Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you.

Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
#20 - 2012-04-17 02:33:05 UTC
Sidus Isaacs wrote:
Empires come and go.

I much rather applaud the enlightened that see empires as a great folly to human progress. If we do not unite freely it is just a form of oppression, and why applaud the biggest oppressors?


What have the Romans ever done for us?

Name a shrub after me.  Something prickly and hard to eradicate.

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