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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#5161 - 2012-04-15 05:43:25 UTC
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427706620

I'll just leave this here.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5162 - 2012-04-15 06:24:16 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
..and yet, interestingly enough, this all resulted in CCPs attention being drawn to this individual and his presumed plight as well as assuring that they would make sure he wasn't treated unfairly or poorly in game and any such action may now bring forth more serious reprisal.

..approve of the apology as it seems sincere enough to me and I'm sure it is to a greater or lesser degree. Have yet to see what actually happened though.

Seriously



Just found it on youtube and watched it. Having read that bit of nonsense on screen.. really?? The guy runs 22 accounts-doesn't bot-all by himself after a divorce.. .what a load of BS. Not surprised the Mittani did that. I don't think it was that interestinbg but anyone can see the guy was full of crap and anyone with half a lick of sense wouldn't take any of that seriously.

In short, the guys a fn RMT, not a depressed, suicidal divorcee. Get over it.

..not sure what your little Ari youtube thing is about; seems kind of senseless and inappropriate.

Basically you need to pull your head out and do some research first before posting.

FYI - The victim is not a RMT bot. He has a bunch of computers all slaved to one control unit. He is actively controlling them and the set up was sanctioned and approved by CCP. Also it doesn't matter if the mail message was true or false.

What matters is your Messiah pre planned and used an Official CCP World Wide Live Video Feed to deliberately incite thousands of other players to go in-game and harass a potentially suicidal person with the sole intention to induce that person to act upon those tendencies and commit suicide.

Not only does it violate the EULA / TOS rules, it betrays the position of the CSM, is morally offensive and libel for criminal prosecution.

If you can't understand the legal implications that places on CCP, then you need to do exactly what Ari Gold was telling you.



'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Lanasak
Doomheim
#5163 - 2012-04-15 06:26:57 UTC
i see demichael crimson is still beating a dead, decomposed horse
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#5164 - 2012-04-15 06:26:58 UTC  |  Edited by: T-B0NE
I like the Mittani more with every post to this thread. Someday I hope I can pull off a troll that results in a 5000+ tearfest.

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Lanasak
Doomheim
#5165 - 2012-04-15 06:27:08 UTC
at this stage you're just kicking the skeleton
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5166 - 2012-04-15 06:53:58 UTC
Lanasak wrote:
i see demichael crimson is still beating a dead, decomposed horse
As long as there's people who seem to think that horse is alright, I as well as others will beat it to show em that horse can't be ridden anymore.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5167 - 2012-04-15 06:55:46 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:
I like the Mittani more with every post to this thread. Someday I hope I can pull off a troll that results in a 5000+ tearfest.

Obviously you haven't read this thread or you would have seen all the tears from Mittani's 'People'.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5168 - 2012-04-15 11:28:18 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:
I like the Mittani more with every post to this thread. Someday I hope I can pull off a troll that results in a 5000+ tearfest.


You mean like the 5000+ goon tears that were shed after his ban?

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
Ironworks Coalition
#5169 - 2012-04-15 11:33:07 UTC
How is this thread still alive?

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#5170 - 2012-04-15 12:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod
Mars Theran wrote:

(btw didn't actually catch the name


you didnt catch the part wher ehe said ythe name, then spelled it....

you cant hear it when you have your fingers in your ears.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
..and yet, interestingly enough, this all resulted in CCPs attention being drawn to this individual and his presumed plight as well as assuring that they would make sure he wasn't treated unfairly or poorly in game and any such action may now bring forth more serious reprisal.

..approve of the apology as it seems sincere enough to me and I'm sure it is to a greater or lesser degree. Have yet to see what actually happened though.

Seriously



Just found it on youtube and watched it. Having read that bit of nonsense on screen.. really?? The guy runs 22 accounts-doesn't bot-all by himself after a divorce.. .what a load of BS. Not surprised the Mittani did that. I don't think it was that interestinbg but anyone can see the guy was full of crap and anyone with half a lick of sense wouldn't take any of that seriously.

In short, the guys a fn RMT, not a depressed, suicidal divorcee. Get over it.

..not sure what your little Ari youtube thing is about; seems kind of senseless and inappropriate.

Basically you need to pull your head out and do some research first before posting.

FYI - The victim is not a RMT bot. He has a bunch of computers all slaved to one control unit. He is actively controlling them and the set up was sanctioned and approved by CCP. Also it doesn't matter if the mail message was true or false.

What matters is your Messiah pre planned and used an Official CCP World Wide Live Video Feed to deliberately incite thousands of other players to go in-game and harass a potentially suicidal person with the sole intention to induce that person to act upon those tendencies and commit suicide.

Not only does it violate the EULA / TOS rules, it betrays the position of the CSM, is morally offensive and libel for criminal prosecution.

If you can't understand the legal implications that places on CCP, then you need to do exactly what Ari Gold was telling you.





all of this plus, do you honestly think that is random player A even used his corp (not a CCP sanctioned event - which is worse mind you) to get a person to act upon suicidal thoughts, do you have ANY thought that they WOULDNT be permabaned?

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

Where is your God now carebear?
Elyssa MacLeod
Doomheim
#5171 - 2012-04-15 12:21:11 UTC
T-B0NE wrote:
I like the Mittani more with every post to this thread. Someday I hope I can pull off a troll that results in a 5000+ tearfest.


You got it backwards but seeing as all you do IS troll not surprising

GM Homonoia: Suicide ganks are a valid and viable tactic in EVE.

Where is your God now carebear?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5172 - 2012-04-15 17:31:52 UTC
Elyssa MacLeod wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
..and yet, interestingly enough, this all resulted in CCPs attention being drawn to this individual and his presumed plight as well as assuring that they would make sure he wasn't treated unfairly or poorly in game and any such action may now bring forth more serious reprisal.

..approve of the apology as it seems sincere enough to me and I'm sure it is to a greater or lesser degree. Have yet to see what actually happened though.

Seriously



Just found it on youtube and watched it. Having read that bit of nonsense on screen.. really?? The guy runs 22 accounts-doesn't bot-all by himself after a divorce.. .what a load of BS. Not surprised the Mittani did that. I don't think it was that interestinbg but anyone can see the guy was full of crap and anyone with half a lick of sense wouldn't take any of that seriously.

In short, the guys a fn RMT, not a depressed, suicidal divorcee. Get over it.

..not sure what your little Ari youtube thing is about; seems kind of senseless and inappropriate.

Basically you need to pull your head out and do some research first before posting.

FYI - The victim is not a RMT bot. He has a bunch of computers all slaved to one control unit. He is actively controlling them and the set up was sanctioned and approved by CCP. Also it doesn't matter if the mail message was true or false.

What matters is your Messiah pre planned and used an Official CCP World Wide Live Video Feed to deliberately incite thousands of other players to go in-game and harass a potentially suicidal person with the sole intention to induce that person to act upon those tendencies and commit suicide.

Not only does it violate the EULA / TOS rules, it betrays the position of the CSM, is morally offensive and libel for criminal prosecution.

If you can't understand the legal implications that places on CCP, then you need to do exactly what Ari Gold was telling you.


all of this plus, do you honestly think that is random player A even used his corp (not a CCP sanctioned event - which is worse mind you) to get a person to act upon suicidal thoughts, do you have ANY thought that they WOULDNT be permabaned?

Not exactly sure what you're stating. Reason for not being perma-banned? I believe in game politics had a lot to do with that.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
T-B0NE
Doomheim
#5173 - 2012-04-15 18:58:30 UTC
Just a quick cross section plug, I made this in honor of the upcoming Burn Jita day and the return of The Mittani, enjoy.

“Death and destruction are necessary to the health of the world, and therefore as natural, and lovable, as birth and life. Only priests and born cowards moan and weep over dying. Brave men face it with approving nonchalance." - Ragnar Redbeard
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5174 - 2012-04-15 19:03:20 UTC
Versuvius Marii wrote:
How is this thread still alive?


It's been feasting on Goon tears to maintain it's unholy existence.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#5175 - 2012-04-15 19:12:01 UTC
"This has been hanging over my head since..." A shrink would have a field day with this intro to an apology. First, it's exterior. The first reference is outside the subject...the inference is..."I'm a potential victim here." If this thread wasn't already morbidly obese I'd parse this thing for you in detail. The upshot is, there is no apology here. There is no remorse. There is no admission to culpability. He could have saved us a lot of time and said, "Sorry. I was drunk." At least that's a universally accepted excuse.

Anyone defending this guy is doing it outside the facts for personal and organizational reasons.

Anyone disputing or resisting it is engaged in an exercise of futility.

The OP, however, is playing both sides like suckers to feed his already over-stuffed ego. One might wonder why an adult male with an alleged higher education is so rapt with the prospect of achieving notariety in a computer game. It's a time consuming endeavor, to say the least. The outside world's demands aren't forgiving in dividing one's attention so. The mere existence of this OP speaks volumes.

Some things, folks, if you understand them...you have to wonder about yourself.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
The D1ngo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5176 - 2012-04-15 19:42:14 UTC
Lanasak wrote:
i see demichael crimson is still beating a dead, decomposed horse



It worked in the case of POS's...
Krenalla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5177 - 2012-04-15 20:51:44 UTC

Sweet . mother . of . god

A 259 page threadnought on World of Darkness

Jeez
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#5178 - 2012-04-15 20:58:42 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

Not exactly sure what you're stating. Reason for not being perma-banned? I believe in game politics had a lot to do with that.


neat... in game can keep you from getting banned from the game O.o

Hows that work? I want me some of that

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#5179 - 2012-04-15 21:04:04 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

Not exactly sure what you're stating. Reason for not being perma-banned? I believe in game politics had a lot to do with that.


That's funny. I could have sworn that he was banned because of in-game politics. If it had been anybody else this whole thread probably would never have happened.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5180 - 2012-04-15 22:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Lapine Davion wrote:
That's funny. I could have sworn that he was banned because of in-game politics. If it had been anybody else this whole thread probably would never have happened.

Mocking and provoking a player into contemplating suicide is far beyond in-game politics.

Meh,

Found a better video.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.