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Command Ships IV and Absolution

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Darex Nidor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-04-15 12:09:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Darex Nidor
Got BC V right now and I haven´t trained BS skill yet, I wonder would Absolution be any good for mission running with CS IV? Or would Abaddon or navy apoc be better than Absolution with BS IV? Thoughts? How about Legion? I use alt in Noctis to collect loot. I used to use navy apoc (with old character) and it was pretty good, but it´s bs sized and therefore quite slowish.

I might be after something new now.. Anyone using Absolution or Legion for level 4 missions?

Oh and I used Paladin too with old character, but right now not interested about marauders.
Mastin Dragonfly
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-04-15 12:31:17 UTC
In lvl 4s you more often than not need range, Absolution doesn't have it, you'll be spending too much time flying about to make it efficient.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#3 - 2012-04-15 14:40:23 UTC
You're almost always better off in a Navy/T1 BS, they perform the best for their cost. As said Abso and even Harb suffer from range issues in L4s meaning they have to tank more and sacrifice more gank making them even less efficient. I'd suggest an Abaddon if you have good gun/cap skills, an Apocalypse for cheap and reliable and a Navy Armageddon for maximum efficiency (needs drone skills though).

However if you want to stay away from BS hulls I've had some fun in a zealot, with ship prices now its a little more cost efficient though still not as good as the T1 BS. This is what I used:

[Zealot, L4]

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II
Cap Recharger II

Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Yeah all the cap mods make me sad too, but Zealot is hard to fit out with Heavies + Dual Rep + Cap Booster, I've tried single rep with an aux nano but it won't tank harder missions even with the speed tank as some web towers are out of range and can cause serious problems, this has enough cap to run 1 rep, guns and ab stable, and can burst the other rep for 1min+.

Gun Range: 39km on Scorch 406dps (a little lackluster but decent)
IN Multi: 12km 509dps (quite decent and you can use this to melt BCs and BSs when you're done kiting smaller stuff)

Be wary of frigates that web, and spider drones, you need to burn away and pop them at range with scorch or you're gonna run into alot of problems.
Lady Aja
#4 - 2012-04-15 15:02:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Aja
IF you have to do lvl 4's in a cruiser type ship use a legion..

this is my old setup. did all lvl4's some took damn near ages...

I swapped out the passives resis to suit each race i was facing.
following was setup for bloods/sansha. it also was able to do sanctums given time. but i udnerstand sanctums have had a change since then.

[Legion, Lvl 4]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corpum A-Type Energized Reflective Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II

Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector


tbh i would reccomend you use a bs of some sort. might wanna look at the nightmare.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Darex Nidor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-15 15:47:29 UTC
Kinda what I was afraid of. My gunnery specific skills are at level 5, small/med/large energy turret 5, now training the specilization skills for t2 turrets. So gunnery skills are alright for pvp and pve.

Looks like it´s the navy apoc that I will take. Ain´t going to train BS V for a long time, got so much other smaller to train for right now. Nightmare would otherwise be solution for me, but don´t have shield skills. Is megapulse navy apoc still good with scorch?
Darex Nidor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-04-15 16:02:06 UTC
Would Oracle work with total dps setup and alt in tanky dominix to pull full agro?
Nicolai Xperte
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-15 16:08:57 UTC
Really depends on what type of missions you are doing if it's sansha then you are in for some really long fights if they are tracking disrupting the **** out of you, since the pulse's have low range and not so great tracking speed to begin with. I did run a few missions with the abso thou and when it didn't have anything TDing it would melt the face off any sansha.
On the abso:
High
6XHeavy Pulse II
1xTS Med Nos (so u can leach some cap off the bs spawns)
Mid
1xFed Navy Web
1xShadow Serp Track Comp.
1x10mn MWD (or AB ur preference)
Low
1xDMG Control II
2xEANM (Navy)
3xT2 Heat Sinks
1xCorpum C-Type Med armor repper
Rigs
2xTrmark Armor Pumps

I don't always bring out my Absolution.

But when I do it makes the Blue's rage, lol.

Mastin Dragonfly
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-15 17:40:05 UTC
Darex Nidor wrote:
Would Oracle work with total dps setup and alt in tanky dominix to pull full agro?


Theoraticly yes, but there are quite a few lvl 4 missions with triggered spawns and you can't garantuee which ships they will target.