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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#1 - 2012-04-15 01:27:36 UTC
Scenario 1:
Newb goes to Jita, looks and see's something he/she wants, but its 2.2 trillion ISK, buyer clicks on advanced and modifies price to 1 trillion, Hoping maybe it might work, but instead he just issued a Buy order, THIS has bin fixed with the "Instant feature"

Scenario 2
Kara Books alt, docks up in Jita, and decides her prices need a Makover, so she goes and modifies the Buy orders first, then looks over to a flashy Wallet button, and then realized that a Cerebrus was just purchased for a very strange number, almost 1B isk, wait thats not right, the ship costs 110M isk, Why wasn't the amount transferred to cover the cost of the purchase equal to that of the Sell order?
NOT FIXED

Any body have anything to add to that?
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-04-15 01:33:55 UTC
huh?
Liberty Eternal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-04-15 01:35:34 UTC
DonHel wrote:
huh?


Instead of paying 1 bil for the cerberus, it should only have taken a maximum of 110 mil. Have to agree - Kara, did you send a polite evemail to the person you overpaid? Human nature is often kinder than we think Blink
Brock Nelson
#4 - 2012-04-15 01:40:17 UTC
OP in wrong corp

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#5 - 2012-04-15 01:41:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Books
Liberty Eternal wrote:
DonHel wrote:
huh?


Instead of paying 1 bil for the cerberus, it should only have taken a maximum of 110 mil. Have to agree - Kara, did you send a polite evemail to the person you overpaid? Human nature is often kinder than we think Blink


Yes, of course, It was also petitioned, Just in case.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#6 - 2012-04-15 01:49:10 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
OP in wrong corp


The corp, gives me quite a few contract slots, its the right corp.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#7 - 2012-04-15 01:51:50 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Liberty Eternal wrote:
DonHel wrote:
huh?


Instead of paying 1 bil for the cerberus, it should only have taken a maximum of 110 mil. Have to agree - Kara, did you send a polite evemail to the person you overpaid? Human nature is often kinder than we think Blink


Yes, of course, It was also petitioned, Just in case.


Haha good luck with that. Working as intended and all that.

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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#8 - 2012-04-15 01:51:55 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
OP in wrong corp


The corp, gives me quite a few contract slots, its the right corp.



I think he was referring to your corp name being a misnomer based on your post.

But I can not tell what goes on in the minds of others. Just guessing.


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Brock Nelson
#9 - 2012-04-15 01:53:20 UTC
^ got it right

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Bifordus Maximus
MissoCorp
#10 - 2012-04-15 02:27:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Bifordus Maximus
Hmm. I have had a similar experience but I had made a profit on it. I had a market sell order up for a certain item at 110,000 isk but somehow someone paid me an even 1mil for the item. I had to triple check it to make sure they didn't buy more than 1 or if it was a different item. I think the market is bugged a little bit.
Dersk
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-15 03:11:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Dersk
Bifordus Maximus wrote:
Hmm. I have had a similar experience but I had made a profit on it. I had a market sell order up for a certain item at 110,000 isk but somehow someone paid me an even 1mil for the item. I had to triple check it to make sure they didn't buy more than 1 or if it was a different item. I think the market is bugged a little bit.


If someone clicks sell order of 1 mil that is at the same station as your sell order, but your sell order is lower, then you get the sale for the 1 million, regardless of how much lower your sell order is.

The sale always goes to the lowest seller, even if the buyer clicks a more expensive listing.

People can mistakenly click an order that isn't the lowest sell if the orders are sorted by something other than price, such as jumps.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#12 - 2012-04-15 03:58:03 UTC
Dersk wrote:
Bifordus Maximus wrote:
Hmm. I have had a similar experience but I had made a profit on it. I had a market sell order up for a certain item at 110,000 isk but somehow someone paid me an even 1mil for the item. I had to triple check it to make sure they didn't buy more than 1 or if it was a different item. I think the market is bugged a little bit.


If someone clicks sell order of 1 mil that is at the same station as your sell order, but your sell order is lower, then you get the sale for the 1 million, regardless of how much lower your sell order is.

The sale always goes to the lowest seller, even if the buyer clicks a more expensive listing.

People can mistakenly click an order that isn't the lowest sell if the orders are sorted by something other than price, such as jumps.


I dont know how to fix that, but I reckon fixing the Sell order thing is as easy as capping the amount of ISK that can enter the wallet for any sell order any one has to the amount the item is listed for.
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Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2012-04-15 04:46:57 UTC
So if I'm reading this right, you added an extra 0 and bought a cerb for a bil, and you want the market to recognize this and only pay the min needed amount to purchase a unit of the item?

If so: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
malaire
#14 - 2012-04-15 07:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
In my opinion this is working as it should be.

Currently, if there are several sell orders of one item, say:

10 units at 140,000 ISK
15 units at 140,100 ISK
5 units at 140,200 ISK

If I want to buy them all, I can either manually buy each, or I can pay 30 x 140,200 ISK (i.e. a little extra) to get everything at once.

With proposed change, I could buy them all with single order without paying any extra. I prefer for it to cost extra to do this.

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#15 - 2012-04-15 07:32:02 UTC
malaire wrote:
In my opinion this is working as it should be.

Currently, if there are several sell orders of one item, say:

10 units at 140,000 ISK
15 units at 140,100 ISK
5 units at 140,200 ISK

If I want to buy them all, I can either manually buy each, or I can pay 30 x 140,200 ISK (i.e. a little extra) to get everything at once.

With proposed change, I could buy them all with single order without paying any extra. I prefer for it to cost extra to do this.


If you want to pay extra ISK, you press ALT-W and click on "Transactions" donate ISK to whoever you want on that list.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#16 - 2012-04-15 09:17:06 UTC
There is nothing wrong in that.

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#17 - 2012-04-15 13:01:37 UTC
OP enters buy order at over 100X market price. OP must have ignored market warning for buying at over 50% region retail price. OP petitions, OP gonna be sad with CCP response.

I once bought 3 Plex for 30M each on 3 contracts from same guy before I actually messaged him and told him what he was doing. <--- Kind of feel happy/sad about the message to him, I wonder how many more he would have placed?

Plan better, make sure your will is high and you're using mind skills when placing buy/sell orders.
Adunh Slavy
#18 - 2012-04-15 15:17:34 UTC
CCP and their crappy market logic. :P

Limit orders

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Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#19 - 2012-04-15 15:19:34 UTC
Eve players and their crappy fat fingers.

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Adunh Slavy
#20 - 2012-04-15 18:33:35 UTC
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
Eve players and their crappy fat fingers.


There's no excuse for bad code, sorry.

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