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Another bots ban wave \o/

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Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#81 - 2012-04-14 22:33:34 UTC
Mirime Nolwe wrote:
This is a good move but it will only be effective if the bans are "forever" because 2 week bans wont do crap and all people will forgot about this until next year.


The two week ban by itself may not do anything, but also take away the money made while botting and flag their accounts so they can't transfer characters? That hurts them. Here's a quote from a botter:

Bot User wrote:
I don't know if they realize it but putting wallets into negative is pretty much a 1-strike policy. There is no way people are going to try and work their way out of a 10-20bil negative wallet. And since you can't upgrade your clone, make contracts, or do anything really, that account is essentially dead. I can understand the no trading characters after a ban, but if they want to try and make players good after a ban and keep them, they would take away assets on the 2nd or 3rd strike.

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"
Whitehound
#82 - 2012-04-14 22:58:51 UTC
Rosewalker wrote:
Mirime Nolwe wrote:
This is a good move but it will only be effective if the bans are "forever" because 2 week bans wont do crap and all people will forgot about this until next year.


The two week ban by itself may not do anything, but also take away the money made while botting and flag their accounts so they can't transfer characters? That hurts them. Here's a quote from a botter:

Bot User wrote:
I don't know if they realize it but putting wallets into negative is pretty much a 1-strike policy. There is no way people are going to try and work their way out of a 10-20bil negative wallet. And since you can't upgrade your clone, make contracts, or do anything really, that account is essentially dead. I can understand the no trading characters after a ban, but if they want to try and make players good after a ban and keep them, they would take away assets on the 2nd or 3rd strike.


They are just too dumb to buy a few PLEX to get the balance back up. If they cannot do this or are not willing to and have been cheating the game as freeloaders then it serves them just right.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#83 - 2012-04-14 23:17:54 UTC
Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#84 - 2012-04-14 23:20:47 UTC
Momoyo wrote:
With all the bans going out I wonder if some people have been mistakenly banned? Loving the new mineral prices though ^_^. Sucks for people who dont have time mine though.

You mean us, taking tech for the the tech throne and all that.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Whitehound
#85 - 2012-04-14 23:23:47 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet?

Probably. The tax gets deducted after the amount went into your wallet. But if not, then I am not going to bother about it. Twisted

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#86 - 2012-04-15 00:41:46 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet?

Nope but you can sell them with an alt and then transfer the isk.

How to win EVE
CCP Stillman
C C P
C C P Alliance
#87 - 2012-04-15 02:52:51 UTC
Drew Solaert wrote:
\o/ Would love to see some juicy ban stats.

I will make a dev blog with some stats in a few weeks.

We've got a lot of stuff going on at the moment on this front which is taking up a lot of my time. Once that is over and we have some good data, I'll put together a dev blog.

Just a random dude in Team Security.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#88 - 2012-04-15 03:18:31 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Can they pay the market fee for a plex sale with negative wallet?

Probably. The tax gets deducted after the amount went into your wallet. But if not, then I am not going to bother about it. Twisted

Actually thats wrong. tax is included before the transaction takes place.


However, all accounts come with 3 slots...
Lady Aja
#89 - 2012-04-15 04:11:35 UTC
@CCP

rmters have a habit of putting isk into contracts aimed at new alts.. so they sit there tilllt hey are ready to make use of said isk.

ccp make it so that contracts from banned accounts cannot be accepted at all.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#90 - 2012-04-15 15:16:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
CCP Stillman wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
\o/ Would love to see some juicy ban stats.

I will make a dev blog with some stats in a few weeks.

We've got a lot of stuff going on at the moment on this front which is taking up a lot of my time. Once that is over and we have some good data, I'll put together a dev blog.


Whilst you're at it...

Read.

E: Fixed linky-fail, a "former RMT'er" having an attack of conscience?

Ni.
YuuKnow
The Scope
#91 - 2012-04-15 15:28:14 UTC
Testerxnot Sheepherder wrote:
The bot bans guarantees that CCP gets my continued subscription fee.

Keep it up


Agreed. Bans should be even harsher actually. Permaban after the 2nd time (who cares if most don't re-offend after the 2nd ban).
Sunviking
Doomheim
#92 - 2012-04-15 15:30:34 UTC
There has always been alot of mission-Bots in Torrinos.

I reported one during the week, I must login today to check if he is still around.

On the whole, I love this Bot-destruction.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#93 - 2012-04-15 16:04:35 UTC
Houm... I never thought that botter tears were crunchy...
slaverjoe
slaverjoe Corporation
#94 - 2012-04-15 16:12:11 UTC
ahaha keep going ccp. i really like this, i am finaly getting use of my hulk! Cool
SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#95 - 2012-04-15 17:12:32 UTC
One of the reasons I started playing the game again was because of all the bot going down Twisted I just love it. I even started paying my actual subs because of the new direction of CCP.
Andrea Griffin
#96 - 2012-04-16 21:42:46 UTC
The work that the security team has been doing here is amazing. It's wonderful that, after so many years, CCP hired the right talent and let them loose on the botting problem. I'm tempted to send those guys some nice single malt. : >

Definitely looking forward to the dev blog on this - I'm expecting graphs on assets removed, the effects on resource utilization, character age, specific dates of mass banning, correlations to prices and market activity, etc. I'd also like to see some details on the methodologies used, but I'm going to guess that they want to keep most of that secret.

An Eve without rampant botting is certainly a better Eve. The market will sort itself out - it always does. Soon it will be time to start dumping mineral stockpiles as people start mining again.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#97 - 2012-04-16 22:09:52 UTC
Virgil Travis wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Local got immediately halved today Big smile



Anyone got a link to that guy's blog where he reposted the best gems from the botter forums?


Nosey Gamer



Big smile That's great! Thanks for the link! One of the best ones was:

"17 March:
Gregar: I have yet to be banned and have been using the BOT on 2 accounts - I think I might have got lucky though as I stopped playing for about a month when everyone was getting banned and I had a day off when the next lot of people started getting banned...

EDIT - Both accounts just got banned.. "


HAHAHA! That guy makes me feel like a geenyuus! Think I'll pay my account with cash to reward CCP for culling bots...
Alara IonStorm
#98 - 2012-04-16 22:47:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Lyrrashae wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Actually the Ice Cream Iteron IV two systems over had it's freezing unit blow out so they are selling all there ice cream at half price.

We're all there right now.

Tim Horton's Edition Itty IV, in honour of CCP's Canadian FF attendees (Hell, we're practically neighbours)--make it happen, CCP!

The amount of Tim Horton's XL Coffee's I drink a day, I could probably build a life sized Itty IV out of Cups before they finish reskining the model.

Anyway, brb Timmies run.
Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-04-16 23:12:56 UTC
CCP Stillman wrote:
Drew Solaert wrote:
\o/ Would love to see some juicy ban stats.

I will make a dev blog with some stats in a few weeks.

We've got a lot of stuff going on at the moment on this front which is taking up a lot of my time. Once that is over and we have some good data, I'll put together a dev blog.


No problem Stillman...... keep on doing what you're doing! PLEASE, keep on doing what you're doing!!!!!

We'd love to see the stats, but we can already see the results. We'll wait, and enjoy the bot tears in the meantime.

Please tell the "Grand Master" that I (and many others) hope that the gym membership is producing good results. We want the both of you around, and healthy, for a long time to come.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-04-16 23:27:48 UTC
slaverjoe wrote:
ahaha keep going ccp. i really like this, i am finaly getting use of my hulk! Cool


Where are you mining? Pirate