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EVE IS EASY! ........just not on your wallet :(

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Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
#41 - 2012-04-14 15:46:27 UTC
They don't just do HG pirate implant + pimped ship + booster alt videos. They've been doing 100% solo + no implant videos with commentary, which I've found to be pretty informative. There has also been mention of doing small-gang roams for exclusive subscribers, so between that and the videos, there's potential for some good learning.

The $20 price tag had me thinking scam first as well. My thought is that it should be something lower to get people interested and perhaps raise the price later if the value has been proven. That said, with the amount of enjoyment I've gotten from Garmon and Willl Adama's videos, plus all the videos I saw on EIE before it went to a subscription only system, I don't mind throwing them $20 to start it off and to see what kind of value they can provide.
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#42 - 2012-04-14 15:51:26 UTC
i lol'd
Hunter Ace
Fuctifino
#43 - 2012-04-14 17:16:04 UTC
I really enjoyed the first few videos they released. They were well done, informative and entertaining. I was looking forward to subscribing but I have to say, $5 MORE a month than it costs to actually play the game seems a little steep to me. I would have definitely paid $10 to see what it was all about and I probably would have subscribed indefinitely regardless for $5 a month. But 20 bucks is a bit too steep for me right now. Which is a shame as I was looking forward to seeing more of EIE's stuff.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#44 - 2012-04-14 17:52:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
All you guys complaining they are $19 instead of $5 would probably all complain if they were $5 and not free. Just saying. Roll

As for basic economics higher priced content often works out better, because less customers means the ones that do sign up are likely more serious and by having less customers they aren't spending as much time answering 1000 questions a day on their forums or EVE-mails from 1000 guys paying $5/month.

People buy GTC's to convert to ISK in this game everyday. I really don't think they will have a hard time selling enough subscriptions to give themselves a few extra bucks and who knows maybe they will make a decent amount of change.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#45 - 2012-04-14 18:01:18 UTC
Just join Eve Uni comes free as part of your Eve Online subscription Big smile

Tal

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#46 - 2012-04-14 18:05:14 UTC
You'd think CCP wouldn't really allow people to use game footage, game assets for 3rd parties to make money from.

Either way, you are an idiot to pay for that. Use booster alts, use falcon alts and you are already 3/4s of the way to Garmon level.
dontmindmeloltwo
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-04-14 18:12:48 UTC
videos are good and from a good pvper however if anyone has played wow arena's im pretty sure a site called skill capped which offered the same thing (sure eveiseasy was a rip off really) and it used to be only $5 a month with new videos everyweek and like 200 in archive :X.
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
#48 - 2012-04-14 18:16:43 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Either way, I'm an idiot to think that by using booster alts, using falcon alts, you are already 3/4s of the way to Garmon level.


FYP
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#49 - 2012-04-14 19:49:10 UTC
Sovai Elaaren wrote:
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Either way, I'm an idiot to think that by using booster alts, using falcon alts, you are already 3/4s of the way to Garmon level.


FYP


Aw that's cute, a wild brown nose white knight appears.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-04-14 19:57:22 UTC
lol paying for more then the sub of eve..
Klown Walk
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-04-14 20:14:26 UTC
$200 for the chance to win a ship and 1 roam is pretty ridiculous.
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
#52 - 2012-04-14 21:15:59 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Aw that's cute, a wild brown nose white knight appears.


Not really, just drawing attention to the fact that you think alts and implants are 75% of pvp. Also interesting is that the only thing you seem to be able to post are insults without providing much insight or useful commentary to the topic at hand.
Olmarin Angel
The Planet Jackers
#53 - 2012-04-14 21:20:13 UTC
Really wasn't expecting any subscription fee.......well that was extremely dissapointing.

I really enjoyed watching the few videos they had posted, but there is no chance in hell that I'm going to pay 20 dollars a month to watch these videos which i feel should be free...... oh well Ugh
Sovai Elaaren
KABS Deep Recon Unit
#54 - 2012-04-14 21:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Sovai Elaaren
Herping yourDerp wrote:
lol paying for more then the sub of eve..


It's not uncommon for people to pay for content of some sort in greater amounts than their sub costs. Anyone who purchases more than a single plex does this.

For a game where more players than not run multiple accounts, it's surprising to me that anyone is making a big deal about the fact that it's $20. Will it be worth it in the long run? Only time will tell, and if they don't make it very worth it they'll lose my dollars, but I'm willing to give them a chance. I mean seriously, it's $20. That's 1 meal at a resteraunt or a night at the movies. I've already spent more time watching the videos they've provided than that.
Clith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-04-14 21:24:37 UTC
This is just disguised RMT
Ban Garmon and everyone else associated with this
Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-04-14 21:39:58 UTC
1. Win alliance tournament.

2. Make many many billions off of the unique ships awarded.

3. Booster alt.

4. Expensive implants, boosters, mods, ships.

5. Win

6. Eve really is easy!

In pace requiescat

Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-04-14 21:40:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Dbars Grinding
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Just join Eve Uni comes free as part of your Eve Online subscription Big smile

Tal




there is more to eve than JAM ALL THE THINGS. Also 19$ is nuts it cost 7$ for a freaking netflix sub.

I have more space likes than you. 

Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#58 - 2012-04-14 22:27:06 UTC
Sovai Elaaren wrote:
Patient 2428190 wrote:
Aw that's cute, a wild brown nose white knight appears.


Not really, just drawing attention to the fact that you think alts and implants are 75% of pvp. Also interesting is that the only thing you seem to be able to post are insults without providing much insight or useful commentary to the topic at hand.


No, I'd say having a decent fit and having in-game experience is what makes you a good PvPer. No website is going to give you the 2nd one.

The alts and/or implants is for the "I r so l33t, watch my videos with my fleet channel blocked out". If you want to "ascend to the elite level" you'd be better off doing either of these things.

a) getting a PLEX to give yourself hardware to lose and then actually playing the game. Each loss, each kill, each engagement makes you better.

b) getting yourself a gang link alt for the horrendously over powered bonuses it would give by sitting in a POS/safespot/dock range

c) falcon alt. This gets dismissed a lot as ~NO HONOURE~ but I really don't see how its any different than the T3 sitting in safety making your ship faster/tankier.

There is way enough free resources/ forums and videos to pick from. If by all means you need somebody to worship and throw away your money, all the power to you but you'd be best served using the money to make yourself better.
Raziel Saston
Deviance Cartel
#59 - 2012-04-14 22:29:30 UTC
Sovai Elaaren wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
lol paying for more then the sub of eve..


It's not uncommon for people to pay for content of some sort in greater amounts than their sub costs. Anyone who purchases more than a single plex does this.

For a game where more players than not run multiple accounts, it's surprising to me that anyone is making a big deal about the fact that it's $20. Will it be worth it in the long run? Only time will tell, and if they don't make it very worth it they'll lose my dollars, but I'm willing to give them a chance. I mean seriously, it's $20. That's 1 meal at a resteraunt or a night at the movies. I've already spent more time watching the videos they've provided than that.


Seriously stop posting.
Trying to define what 20 dollars is worth is just plain ignorant of what people are saying here.
WE DONT THINK THAT THE SUBSCRIPTION FEE IS WORTH IT! ok ?

I saw a post earlier stateing, where does this lead to ? Is garmon vids gonna be released on blu ray now on amazon or whatever for a set fee ?

Personally i am very dissapointed how EIE went. They had a great idea then &*$%ed us all from behind with their 20 $ fee lol

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#60 - 2012-04-14 22:32:46 UTC
But seriously its not like its protected by copyright, is there really anything stopping someone just uploading these elsewhere?

Don't see the point in paying that much for something that will be freely available after a short delay.