Warfare & Tactics

How does a npc corp go to war? How do you have an alliance?

There is one key part of the equation, the market. If you were selling to NPCs and buying from NPCs then who cares if you just like to pve. That's your thing, that's how the game was designed. In that case claims that forced pvp is griefing may even hold some merit.

Eve is different though. You sell to other players, buy from other players. Claiming that you are a "PVEer" and everyone else is forcing you to pvp simply doesn't apply.

Eve is built around competition. The tools are in game to make yourself as safe as possible within game mechanics. It's people that demand artificial safety and those that rage if someone interferes with their game that are clueless and too selfish to see the imbalance of their demands.

As long as you actually get what's going on but you prefer to avoid direct conflict, who really cares if some internet person doesn't like your play style. But when you start demanding that pvp is wrong and you should be safe and protected, then you're crossing into moron territory. Observing these forums, you will notice, it is densely populated.

While your question is not actually that weird, i have to ask, how long have you been playing EVE?
You think most people would post things like this with their main char?

Fair point there, but on the other hand, not fair at all.

When CCP started to make EVE, their intention was to make a sandbox and see what happens ( well sort of at least ).

When Goonswarm came up, CCP actually took the time to think about, if they should do something about it, which to me, indicates that this was not intended.
The fact that CCP decided not to act on it, has nothing at all to do with what EVE was actually meant for.

When large scale scams and theft came to play, CCP actually took the time to think about what to do about it.
The fact that CCP decided not to act on that either, has nothing at all to do with what EVE was actually meant for.


My point here is this:
Why do people claim EVE was meant to be played in a certain way, when all it was meant for, was to play it however the hell you wanted?

So in other words, as EVE is and always will be a sandbox, you avoid PVP if you don't want PVP and you pursue PVP if you do.
You avoid mining if you hate mining and you do mining if you don't.
You avoid PVE if you don't want PVE and you do PVE if you do want PVE.

EVE is a sandbox, how many times does that have to be repeated?

O one other thing.
When i was a little kid, playing in a sandbox at school, i used to love destroying other people's sandcastle's, but others used to love making them.

I happen to think the exact same way you do, i was just trying to get some nuance into the mix.
However, saying that one could better play the X series of games, solely for this reason, is a little bit ( yes a little ) far fetched, EVE is way more than just a PVP oriented game.
It has unmatched awesomeness in it's graphics, market dynamics, life-like industrial chains and man managed politics.
EVE attracts people for a million reasons, otherwise, you could just as well play Warhammer or Guild Wars 2.

True.

I mine a lot too though, when I'm at work.
I can't pay attention to the game the whole time, so this allows me to make isk semi afk.
I however, have been smart enough to find a system nobody ever really pays attention too, so maybe that's a good tip for the moaning miners.

It does not bother us. We just don't stop trying to shoot you.

Because if all of eve was nullsec nothing would happen.

This is true in many cases. There are exceptions, but a fair portion of the griefdecking crowd will run from anything that mounts a sensor booster.

some people love to bully people that want nothing to do with them. Even though this is just a game, people's personalities will always cross the lines between reality and virtual reality.

I hate bullys therefore dont understand greifing or hi-sec war deccing or any of that ****. DOes it bother me to the point where i question people's game morals??? GOD NO.

But i love bully tears. THere is nothing greater in this game then hearing bullies whine when things do not go their way.

Like the introduction of concord is a great tear. Or the boomerang technique, another great tear. Or how hi-sec greifers want you to play their game. Another great tear.