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Why can't i have the same number of toons active as I use to have?
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xxwaynoxx
Nerkcorp
#1 - 2012-04-14 13:04:26 UTC
My clients crash, stall, and disappear. It's only since they focussed on making it better for us. Have they focussed too hard and now us multi toon pilots are doomed? is it because they made it look better? Is it the new loader?
What ever it is my machine runs hotter and harder and the bandwidth use is larger.
If I can only run one client/toon per machine I will consider another space based game. A couple of months ago I could run my toons and mine/shoot the crap out of things. Now I am lucky if I can stay in space.

So, evedudes, what the hell have you done wrong?
Tikera Tissant
#2 - 2012-04-14 14:02:41 UTC
I didn't understand.
You want to run 2 clients with 2 accounts or 2 clients with 1 account?
The second option is of course not possible as you can not log in to same account twice.

The first option, I myself did not see any changes or issues lately.
I can run 6 clients on the same machine from the same folder without any issues,

And why is this thread in this sub forum and not general Question
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2012-04-14 14:10:51 UTC
Sounds like your machine is having a bit of issues lately.
Did you update any GPU drivers lately? Maybe it's a good idea to fall back on a release that is stable for you?
Maybe clean out the computer, check for temperature, etc. etc.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#4 - 2012-04-14 16:04:18 UTC
Time to upgrade...
Orlacc
#5 - 2012-04-14 16:11:41 UTC
Wrong forum.

It's your machine.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
xxwaynoxx
Nerkcorp
#6 - 2012-04-15 00:41:47 UTC
I have multiple accounts and use a Dell XPS 1702 with 8 gig of ram, 64 bit OS and 3 gig nvidia card. It was bought new in July last year. Upgrade what?.

I have multiple accounts and up a couple of months ago they were all stable and the laptop would happily handle 4 accounts/clients runnig at once.

The first indication having to switch of anti aliasing as everything was slowing down. now it becomes unstable with two accounts running, but at weird times, ie there is no pattern. At different times I can run the accounts for an hour and nothing happens.

Thanks for the thoughts on the GPU
Bifordus Maximus
MissoCorp
#7 - 2012-04-15 02:11:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Bifordus Maximus
xxwaynoxx wrote:
My clients crash, stall, and disappear. It's only since they focussed on making it better for us. Have they focussed too hard and now us multi toon pilots are doomed? is it because they made it look better? Is it the new loader?
What ever it is my machine runs hotter and harder and the bandwidth use is larger.
If I can only run one client/toon per machine I will consider another space based game. A couple of months ago I could run my toons and mine/shoot the crap out of things. Now I am lucky if I can stay in space.

So, evedudes, what the hell have you done wrong?



I had a similar problem as you did. I also have a similar setup as you. My problem was that my ATI graphics card could not handle it anymore and was the reason behind all the crashes and eventually the blue screen of death. Had nothing to do with how many boxes though. My graphics card in general was dieing. Your graphics card my be dieing a slow death. My suggestion would be to lower the graphical settings for the game.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-15 04:03:23 UTC
Bifordus Maximus wrote:
I had a similar problem as you did. I also have a similar setup as you. My problem was that my ATI graphics card could not handle it anymore and was the reason behind all the crashes and eventually the blue screen of death. Had nothing to do with how many boxes though. My graphics card in general was dieing. Your graphics card my be dieing a slow death. My suggestion would be to lower the graphical settings for the game.


coming from a software developer: **** hardware. hardware sucks and i hate it.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Flakey Foont
#9 - 2012-04-15 05:31:31 UTC
I have nowhere near your processing power or memory and run 3 clients with no issues.
Florence Harding
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2012-04-15 06:37:51 UTC
It doesn't have to be because of lack of power.
I had a problem with running 3 clients on a 7970 with newest drivers. It would crash whole setup in less than 10 minutes.
Geforce 550 Ti 3GB however hasn't crashed even once with otherwise same setup.
DrHeinz Doofenshmirtz
The Scope
#11 - 2012-04-18 15:32:26 UTC  |  Edited by: DrHeinz Doofenshmirtz
Dude it's a Dell laptop ...

Something is really wrong with your machine. i can run lots of clients everything maxed out on the i5 i built. Granted mine is a 2500K.
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#12 - 2012-04-18 15:46:50 UTC
Bifordus Maximus wrote:
xxwaynoxx wrote:
My clients crash, stall, and disappear. It's only since they focussed on making it better for us. Have they focussed too hard and now us multi toon pilots are doomed? is it because they made it look better? Is it the new loader?
What ever it is my machine runs hotter and harder and the bandwidth use is larger.
If I can only run one client/toon per machine I will consider another space based game. A couple of months ago I could run my toons and mine/shoot the crap out of things. Now I am lucky if I can stay in space.

So, evedudes, what the hell have you done wrong?



I had a similar problem as you did. I also have a similar setup as you. My problem was that my ATI graphics card could not handle it anymore and was the reason behind all the crashes and eventually the blue screen of death. Had nothing to do with how many boxes though. My graphics card in general was dieing. Your graphics card my be dieing a slow death. My suggestion would be to lower the graphical settings for the game.


Tossing your graphics card in the oven for a while sometimes helps too. True story: repeated heating and cooling can cause the solder connections to weaken and crack. Reflowing the solder can restore it to its original state.

Not a guaranteed solution, but it works more often than you'd think.
Yatama Kautsuo
Tencus
#13 - 2012-04-18 16:06:21 UTC
Tabernack en Chasteaux wrote:
Bifordus Maximus wrote:
xxwaynoxx wrote:
My clients crash, stall, and disappear. It's only since they focussed on making it better for us. Have they focussed too hard and now us multi toon pilots are doomed? is it because they made it look better? Is it the new loader?
What ever it is my machine runs hotter and harder and the bandwidth use is larger.
If I can only run one client/toon per machine I will consider another space based game. A couple of months ago I could run my toons and mine/shoot the crap out of things. Now I am lucky if I can stay in space.

So, evedudes, what the hell have you done wrong?



I had a similar problem as you did. I also have a similar setup as you. My problem was that my ATI graphics card could not handle it anymore and was the reason behind all the crashes and eventually the blue screen of death. Had nothing to do with how many boxes though. My graphics card in general was dieing. Your graphics card my be dieing a slow death. My suggestion would be to lower the graphical settings for the game.


Tossing your graphics card in the oven for a while sometimes helps too. True story: repeated heating and cooling can cause the solder connections to weaken and crack. Reflowing the solder can restore it to its original state.

Not a guaranteed solution, but it works more often than you'd think.


would not recommend it if the card still works in other games. if it works it's mostly only for some time. use it as a last hope method.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#14 - 2012-04-18 17:32:58 UTC
I run three clients across two monitors on much older hardware.

Something else has changed, probably a driver or a poorly-written program running in the background.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#15 - 2012-04-18 17:36:24 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
coming from a software developer: **** hardware. hardware sucks and i hate it.

You're not one of those devs who writes the drivers that crash all the time then, I hope Big smile

Tangent: The vast majority of problems in Windows are due to poorly-written software--and I don't mean Windows. Almost every time I fix something without replacing hardware, I do so by uninstalling, reinstalling, reconfiguring, or patching some piece of software that was causing the problem. WTB more good developers.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Tabernack en Chasteaux
Phoibe Enterprises
#16 - 2012-04-18 17:38:44 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Tangent: The vast majority of problems in Windows are due to poorly-written software--and I don't mean Windows. Almost every time I fix something without replacing hardware, I do so by uninstalling, reinstalling, reconfiguring, or patching some piece of software that was causing the problem. WTB more good developers.

+1 to this.
Megnamon
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-18 18:54:44 UTC
I have had the same problem since the client was redone. Used to be fine running 2 clients, now sometimes its fine with no problems, othertimes it is constant lock-ups. Seems like the longer the clients run, the more it happens. There was a forum post from a dev I saw stating that there may be a memory leak or some such somewhere in the new client, could be the issue...
Teibor
Quay Industries
#18 - 2012-04-18 19:45:37 UTC
Megnamon wrote:
I There was a forum post from a dev I saw stating that there may be a memory leak or some such somewhere in the new client, could be the issue...


there have been memory leaks on Eve for absolutely months and months. Leave your character sat in station doing absolutely nothing and the mem usage goes from 600k/800k to over 1200k/1400k, thats not natural, thats bad coding imo.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-04-19 07:25:26 UTC
This is really unhelpful advice for your situation: but next time you purchase a computer for gaming, don't buy a laptop. You invariably have cooling issues, a fan will go out, and they're not easy to replace. They're also easily twice the cost of a tower computer.

Try to make sure all accessible areas are clear of dust and debris, and consider getting a cooling pad. If it's not a heat related issue, it's probably your GPU's driver.

Currently running 3-5 clients no problem, so it's not EVE (unless it's how EVE is interacting with your hardware's drivers).

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Nicolai Xperte
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-04-19 08:25:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolai Xperte
I was having that issue as well was running 2 clients with no issues then after a patch in November or December was horrible to run 2 clients. What I did to resolve this was reinstall the client and now it works fine, worked for me might just work for u :)

I don't always bring out my Absolution.

But when I do it makes the Blue's rage, lol.
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