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On goals and immortality.

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Link Joker
Goto Manufacturing
#1 - 2012-04-13 22:41:57 UTC
It is very, very difficult to kill a capsuler, they say. With training, implants and cloning we are effectively immortal; Provided of course, we update the clone on a regular basis, or spend most of our time in the pod.

So what do you do with your immortality?
What do you want to do in the next century?
For those of you who survived for a time as a capsuleer, what have you accomplished?

Discuss.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#2 - 2012-04-13 23:25:48 UTC
What do I do with my time? I search for truth and beauty. I fight for what's right, my family and my unborn daughter. I fight for the people who I'd be honored to accept me into the Tribes.

What do I hope to accomplish? Leave the world better off than how it was when I came into it, for my children and kin.

What have I accomplished? Not nearly enough.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#3 - 2012-04-14 05:55:34 UTC
In 8 years, I am much further along than I had planned.

Still, another century or so is to be expected for my ambitions to see fruition.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#4 - 2012-04-14 08:24:42 UTC
Came expecting talk of cake, was dissapointed.

I'm a rather militant scientist, it's worked well so far.

So I shall simply have to keep forwarding the cause of science
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2012-04-14 10:35:00 UTC
In six years of capsule I have witnessed New Eden status decaying to a point that makes one wonder if we jumped back centuries ago.

I still continue to spend my time to learn and do what I can to see us all advance again together. I hope this will be the case in the next century, and more importantly, in the next milleniums.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
Electus Matari
#6 - 2012-04-14 11:23:19 UTC
I've been a pilot for a little over eight years. I can count the people who I remember were there when I started and are still active and in space with the fingers of my hands. The ones who I know to be permanently dead are much more numerous.

I would not count too much on that "immortality" thing yet.
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#7 - 2012-04-15 03:04:17 UTC
Mmm. Excellent point.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2012-04-15 10:12:12 UTC
The capsuleer age is still relatively new.

We simply don't know what will happen to the psychology of podders after they have been regularly interfacing with their capsules for more than a century. I'm sure that the Jovians know, but they are not to be trusted.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#9 - 2012-04-16 00:32:36 UTC
With my immortallity I have put my faith in one man, I wish to see his dreams become reality. If only I could be of some use to Master Kuvakei then my life as a capauleer was a success....

As far as what I have done, I was there with the Master in the Promised Land and i worked with some pretty Amazing people to help further the goals of Nation. Some are estranged at the moment but I am sure they will be back in due time.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-16 21:04:51 UTC
I've only been swimming in pod goo for less than 2 years, though due to a cloning related problem it's more along the lines of 1 year. I'm still learning from more seasoned capsuleers but I hope to find a way to resolve the differences between the nations once and for all.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#11 - 2012-04-18 06:09:34 UTC
The capsuleer existence is a new experience for me, as well. It is something to be explored, and furthered upon.

Perhaps one day I will grow tired of this form of immortality, tired of knowing that those who do not share the status of capsuleer are fated to grow old and perish while we live on as copies many times removed from our original forms. One cannot help but wonder if we will remain the same as centuries drag on - if we will become indifferent and callous gods amongst the masses.

Of course, some would say that there are those capsuleers who have already started down that path.

No, when the time comes that I have seen and experienced all that I wish to in this immortal life - when I have made my mark and legacy in this cluster to my satisfaction - then I will set my affairs in order. Then I will terminate my gestating and waiting clones, unplug myself from my pod for all time, and perhaps retire to some out of the way world to live out my days.

Or set the autopilot of my vessel to dive into a system primary, or perhaps the EVE Gate whilst I stand on the bridge and contemplate this new adventure before me.

*nods and switches off the commlink*

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-04-18 06:40:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
I'm going to have to be delightfully humdrum and say that the only thing that has changed for me on a personal level is that I've become exceedingly difficult to get rid of for good, something I am sure that I will enjoy exploiting fully.

So far I don't believe that this realization has changed me as a person, or my outlook - yet. But I still find it intensely interesting do see the opinions of pilots 'older' than I am.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Zukes Bla'hati
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-04-18 10:25:59 UTC
I'm still a very new pilot and have very much to learn from others.

With my immortality I plan on growing as much as I can as a person. At the least, I hope that I am able to touch the lives of the other capsuleers that I'm around.

I'm hoping to fight alongside my new family and make them proud.

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-04-18 10:56:16 UTC
Zukes Bla'hati wrote:
I'm still a very new pilot and have very much to learn from others.

With my immortality I plan on growing as much as I can as a person. At the least, I hope that I am able to touch the lives of the other capsuleers that I'm around.

I'm hoping to fight alongside my new family and make them proud.



Some would already say that you've succeeded in a few of those goals.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Zukes Bla'hati
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-04-18 11:55:58 UTC
Halete wrote:
Zukes Bla'hati wrote:
I'm still a very new pilot and have very much to learn from others.

With my immortality I plan on growing as much as I can as a person. At the least, I hope that I am able to touch the lives of the other capsuleers that I'm around.

I'm hoping to fight alongside my new family and make them proud.



Some would already say that you've succeeded in a few of those goals.


Perhaps.

Even if those goals are already met, it doesn't hurt to continue to expand upon them.
Giane Orlenard
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-19 03:50:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Giane Orlenard
I can't even figure out what I'm having for breakfast tomorrow, and everybody else is thinking about what they're doing next century?

... 'm so screwed.

Er, sorry.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-19 08:31:12 UTC
I've been a capsuleer for something like six years now. I've become rich, although not as rich as some, and skilled, although not as skilled as some. I've gained money, respect and power, and lost it as well, although I always end up with a little more of each than I had to begin with. I've fought and won wars, and lost them as well. I've wielded power - sometimes I've had it taken from me, and other times I've held it long enough to simply grow bored of it and find something else. I've made friends and enemies, and forged other relationships less easily definiable - and ended them, too. I've seen the depths of wormhole space and the very edges of New Eden, and I've visited every single one of the core worlds too. I've been a miner, a researcher, an industrialist, a warrior, a mercenary, an advisor, a follower, a leader and a wanderer.

I don't think that, in any single endeavour, I've been as successful as other capsuleers who've mastered it, but I am secure in the knowledge that not every capsuleer has experienced as broad a selection of experiences as I have.

Right now, I'm content to use the considerable knowledge I've accrued over the course of my career to assist a burgeoning alliance that supports the same ideologies as I do.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-04-20 21:32:44 UTC
I hope that after one century of life, I'll be as wise as some of the old grandfathers I've met. Then, with the second century of life, I hope to live with the wisdom of a grandfather, but with a body still fit and strong enough for action.
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#19 - 2012-04-20 22:26:28 UTC
Here are, in chronological sequence, the crucial things I learned upon becoming a capsuleer:

1. I can make more money than ever before.
2. I AM making more money than ever before.
3. I can make more money than all other pilots.
4. I HAVE made more money than all other pilots.
5. Money is completely without meaning.
6. The human universe operates in cycles of annihilation.
7. Civilizations rise rapidly until reaching a critical point of evolution.
8. After this point, the civilizations vanish. We are at the end-stage of such a cycle.
9. The one common element in each cycle is the presence of the Jovians.
10. We are not such a common element. We are about to cease to exist.

11. I will continue to exist regardless of what happens to the rest of you.

That last one is a present, personal goal.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-23 14:07:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
Here are, in chronological sequence, the crucial things I learned upon becoming a capsuleer
1. I can make more money than ever before
2. I AM making more money than ever before
3. I can make more money than all other pilots
4. I HAVE made more money than all other pilots
5. Money is completely without meaning
6. The human universe operates in cycles of annihilation.
7. Civilizations rise rapidly until reaching a critical point of evolution.
8. After this point, the civilizations vanish. We are at the end-stage of such a cycle.
9. The one common element in each cycle is the presence of the Jovians.
10. We are not such a common element. We are about to cease to exist
11. I will continue to exist regardless of what happens to the rest of you That last one is a present, personal goal.


A very interesting outlook, sir. It necessarily gives rise to the conclusion that capsuleers are not immortal after all. If this civilization is subject to the law of entropy, it will someday come to an end. In such case, it seems probable that technology and communication levels would decline as well. Should that happen, the extravagances of capsule and mind retransplantation technologies may be the first to fail. In which case, we capsuleers might find that we are quite mortal after all.
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