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kiki mo
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
#61 - 2012-04-12 17:48:50 UTC
Sutskop wrote:
Evil Market wrote:

Ok ccp why has concord speed up there responce time since Downtime without letting us know.

They now spawn at the speed of npc police... not the speed concord responds at


Don't gank with Concord on grid.


train reading comprehension up a little bit more....mmmkay?
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons
Silver Dragonz
#62 - 2012-04-12 18:02:41 UTC
Looking For Corp wrote:


Complete lies.

Without concord on grid you now die in less than 3 seconds and only get one shot out of any ship.

With my Mega Pulse Laser II fitted to tornado i only get one shot and can no longer kill valid targets.

This is a carebear nerf to the game and financial compensation MUST be given for this.



2012.04.11 03:16:00

Victim: Some idiot in the Ice Belts!
Corp: Idiots Corp
Alliance: Idiots Alliance
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Mackinaw
System: Teonusude
Security: 0.6
Damage Taken: 2848

Involved parties:

Name: Tomias Alzark (laid the final blow) <- The douche with too much time on his hands
Security: -0.40
Corp: OSD Clan FleetCom <-The douche's corp
Alliance: Silver Dragonz <- The douche's alliance
Faction: None
Ship: Talos <-The ship that was shiny no moar
Weapon: Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I <-The evil guns of death!
Damage Done: 2838

Name: Angel Outlaw / Archangels
Damage Done: 10

Destroyed items: <- Teh phat lewtz!

Hammerhead I, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Small Neutron Saturation Injector I
Ice Harvester II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Dropped items:

Hammerhead I, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Glacial Mass, Qty: 4 (Cargo)
Ice Harvester II
Survey Scanner I
Photonic CPU Enhancer I
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I




yep... because it's still so hard to gank someone before you die. Would have had the idiots other mackinaw had concord not jammed me out when it hit half structure on the second mack :(
In the grand scheme of things... You're all pubbies. So HTFU.   "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses." - Elwood Blues
Atomik Harmonik
Working Girls
#63 - 2012-04-12 18:31:45 UTC
Ketov Aktar wrote:
Were do you think your gank ships come from? Some magic spot in space ? If it were not for the people that mine for hours to sell that ore to the industriealists that BUILD those ships you love to lose so much, what would you do with your thumb? Insert imigination here............ You do something illegal, you get dealt with. Just like in RL, you rob you pay.Suicide gankers have tears now because thier easy prey is not so "easy" any longer.Blink



You fail in two ways...not to be mean, I just wanted to point this out in case you haven't thought of it before.

1. You fail to take your thought all the way to the conclusion. You are correct in the beginning about the supply of gankships and the necessity of miners and industrialists to make them. Where you fail is your understanding of what would happen if the gankers and the criminals went away and hisec became safe. There is a cycle and a symbiotic relationship here...a 'circle of life' if you permit me to ripoff a phrase. You need them as much as they need you...or else the game stagnates and becomes farmville in space with no point other than mindless repetetive tasks.

2. You fail in your application of the overused 'tears' meme. Discussions and information being verified is not tears. Similar to what I said before to another poster, using a word or meme incorrectly to sound cool just makes you look dumb and annoying.

So, it's been verified then? Concord not only spawns faster and scrams, they also shoot faster?
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons
Silver Dragonz
#64 - 2012-04-12 18:53:41 UTC
And they use jammers disturbingly. Because I'm pretty sure the second mackinaw didn't have ECM on it XD
In the grand scheme of things... You're all pubbies. So HTFU.   "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses." - Elwood Blues
Atomik Harmonik
Working Girls
#65 - 2012-04-12 18:59:50 UTC
Tauren Tom wrote:
And they use jammers disturbingly. Because I'm pretty sure the second mackinaw didn't have ECM on it XD


something that miners/indys could have done for themselves, but CCP decided to have Concord do it for them.

When I first started playing eve, I saw that video on Youtube "When carebears attack" I thought it was brilliant! I wanted to do that (and still do!!) I just got sidetracked a bit with all of the other things to do and train for, I never actually got a Hulk.

As I said though, THIS

http://youtu.be/ndWUlntJ58U

is great!!!

CCP nerfing hisec and buffing concord is lame
Ketov Aktar
Grey Wolff
#66 - 2012-04-12 20:06:07 UTC
Atomik Harmonik wrote:
Ketov Aktar wrote:
Were do you think your gank ships come from? Some magic spot in space ? If it were not for the people that mine for hours to sell that ore to the industriealists that BUILD those ships you love to lose so much, what would you do with your thumb? Insert imigination here............ You do something illegal, you get dealt with. Just like in RL, you rob you pay.Suicide gankers have tears now because thier easy prey is not so "easy" any longer.Blink



You fail in two ways...not to be mean, I just wanted to point this out in case you haven't thought of it before.

1. You fail to take your thought all the way to the conclusion. You are correct in the beginning about the supply of gankships and the necessity of miners and industrialists to make them. Where you fail is your understanding of what would happen if the gankers and the criminals went away and hisec became safe. There is a cycle and a symbiotic relationship here...a 'circle of life' if you permit me to ripoff a phrase. You need them as much as they need you...or else the game stagnates and becomes farmville in space with no point other than mindless repetetive tasks.

2. You fail in your application of the overused 'tears' meme. Discussions and information being verified is not tears. Similar to what I said before to another poster, using a word or meme incorrectly to sound cool just makes you look dumb and annoying.

So, it's been verified then? Concord not only spawns faster and scrams, they also shoot faster?

You are correct. If it were not for gankers, there would be "farmville" as you put it. As for the "tears" thing? My fail. Point is people will complain about any change that is made that disrupts their "normal" way of doing thing. Change is good... keeps us all moving forward.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#67 - 2012-04-13 08:37:35 UTC
Looking For Corp wrote:
Ronni Zigman wrote:
Alright, going to wrap up this thread real quick.

If you suicide with concord ongrid, you're dumb. You die instantly.

0.5 systems still have the normal 25sec-ish response time

Gate guns will also pop you, if you're on a gate

You are insta warpscrambled upon GCCing

Please close this thread now, thank you.


Complete lies.

Without concord on grid you now die in less than 3 seconds and only get one shot out of any ship.

With my Mega Pulse Laser II fitted to tornado i only get one shot and can no longer kill valid targets.

This is a carebear nerf to the game and financial compensation MUST be given for this.


0/10

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Katja Faith
Doomheim
#68 - 2012-04-13 23:00:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Katja Faith
Atomik Harmonik wrote:
2. You fail in your application of the overused 'tears' meme. Discussions and information being verified is not tears. Similar to what I said before to another poster, using a word or meme incorrectly to sound cool just makes you look dumb and annoying.


"Tears" comes down to one thing, and one thing only: pathetic whining. OP is full of tears, as is your fail (there's another meme for you to play intarwebs (ooh, another one!) hall monitor on), as are your posts here.

Whining. Or, to better overuse yet another fail meme for your Hall Monitoring droolage, "whinging". You look like a complete moron correcting people who don't use your beloved peeveepee'er memes the way YOU want them to.
Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
#69 - 2012-04-14 01:07:22 UTC
If it isn't a change listed in any patch notes, then file a bug report. Otherwise, working as intended.
Adunh Slavy
#70 - 2012-04-14 06:26:31 UTC
Looking For Corp wrote:
nonsense. this is dedicated PVP with many skill to setup target properly. CCP nerf valid gameplay and for this we need financial compensation or repeal this nerf immediately.




You can get $15 a month compensation, just visit your account page.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#71 - 2012-04-15 15:48:59 UTC  |  Edited by: StonerPhReaK
Looking For Corp wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!


INCREASE IN GANKING LEADS TO INCREASE IN SECURITY!!!!!!!


there not supposed to be increase in security this is PVP ONLY game and now real players is being hurt by bad change to mechanics. this must be returned to normal or financial compensation given to all player for lost income and game play



This is not a PVP ONLY game, Mr corp hunter. Also stop fitting lasors to a tornado. They work better on an oracle. If it was PVP only there wouldnt be any PVE content. And we would all sit in a lobby waiting for people to green up so we can get our 2 minute battle on. (Tanks anyone?)

Please quit. Save us the headaches of explaining racial guntypes and fitting to a ships bonus' to a complete troll.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.

Kale Eledar
Venerated Industries
#72 - 2012-04-15 20:02:29 UTC
the police sent me a letter yesterday telling me they were upgrading their patrol cars and purchasing better and more accurate radar so that I could prepare

crap, nvm. they didn't.

First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#73 - 2012-04-16 13:13:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikonia
Hehe, i love the tears.

Especially when said:"..i am gonna look for a new MMO..". Just go. Quietly.

Still not enough punishment for my personal taste. Some ideas for CCP:

Criminal flag at least for the length of a payment period, in which CONCORD will instapop the flagged criminal. Exception only when buying a PLEX. Would love to see that.

Instapop also capsule. Gankers have no need for implants. You cant implant something into empty space anyway, so this should be considered to be implemented pretty fast.

Love to carebears :) Enjoy the wannabe-pirate tears.
AstarothPrime
Pecunia Infinita
#74 - 2012-04-16 13:50:03 UTC
Hmm, dont like concord?

There is low and null for those matters... OH WAIT, low skilled industrials and exhumers dont stand still in belts there for you to pop them there. What assholes...

I.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2012-04-16 14:24:59 UTC
I would like to see a more automated approach to give it more realism. As ganking hits a certain threshold, concord response automatically improves a bit. As ganking is reduced, concord response automatically goes back to normal. Just like in real life when crime waves comes and goes.

Another benefit is it always keeps people guessing
SB Rico
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2012-04-19 04:43:51 UTC
Looking For Corp wrote:
Ronni Zigman wrote:
Alright, going to wrap up this thread real quick.

If you suicide with concord ongrid, you're dumb. You die instantly.

0.5 systems still have the normal 25sec-ish response time

Gate guns will also pop you, if you're on a gate

You are insta warpscrambled upon GCCing

Please close this thread now, thank you.


Complete lies.

Without concord on grid you now die in less than 3 seconds and only get one shot out of any ship.

With my Mega Pulse Laser II fitted to tornado i only get one shot and can no longer kill valid targets.

This is a carebear nerf to the game and financial compensation MUST be given for this.


I think I spotted the problem.

Use Arties instead fella

Scammers are currently selling killrights on this toon for up to 5mil, if you have paid for this service demand your money back at once.

Killing me should be for free.

Beat General
Doomheim
#77 - 2012-04-19 21:21:01 UTC
SB Rico wrote:
Looking For Corp wrote:
Ronni Zigman wrote:
Alright, going to wrap up this thread real quick.

If you suicide with concord ongrid, you're dumb. You die instantly.

0.5 systems still have the normal 25sec-ish response time

Gate guns will also pop you, if you're on a gate

You are insta warpscrambled upon GCCing

Please close this thread now, thank you.


Complete lies.

Without concord on grid you now die in less than 3 seconds and only get one shot out of any ship.

With my Mega Pulse Laser II fitted to tornado i only get one shot and can no longer kill valid targets.

This is a carebear nerf to the game and financial compensation MUST be given for this.


I think I spotted the problem.

Use Arties instead fella


-1/10.


Or actually an idiot.
Zills
State War Academy
Caldari State
#78 - 2012-04-28 00:50:49 UTC
I will gladly give you financial compensation for any losses.
Simply send me a 100m isk administration fee and I will repay any losses you incur from Concord over the next month.

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#79 - 2012-04-30 12:47:17 UTC
To clarify, there are PvPers, and then there are Gankers. They're not the same thing.

Imagine the game is like the Roman Colosseum. The arena floor is nullsec, the stadium is hisec.

The hisec "carebears" are the people sitting in the audience.

The PvPers are the gladiators fighting on the arena floor.

Gankers are just thugs sneaking through the audience, randomly stabbing people and trying to claim that somehow makes them equal to the gladiators.

It does not.

I have plenty of respect for actual PvPers. They risk their ships and their pods every time they get into combat. They know the risks and they are not afraid to take them, because they thrive on the thrill of danger that only real combat against vicious opponents bring.

Gankers? Sorry, but blowing up unarmed civilian ships doesn't take a lot of balls. In fact, quite the contrary - it indicates to me a complete lack of them.

You could say that they hisec people lack balls too, but the thing is, they don't lie about it. They know they don't want to get into a fight - especially in an unarmed civilian ship of all things - so they chose to stay away from it. Gankers, on the other hand, are basically doing the exact same thing but then afterward they go around trying to act like they're somehow superior to the "carebears." They're not. They're actually a step lower on the "balls scale" because they're not only cowards, but lying cowards as well.

Hulk kills don't impress me. Mackinaw kills don't impress me. Freighter kills don't impress me. You may as well be bragging about shooting down a SHUTTLE. Want to impress me? Take that ship into nullsec, come back with a battleship or two on you kill board and then you can honestly tell me that you're a tough guy. I'll believe it then, and give you props for it.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#80 - 2012-04-30 13:16:15 UTC
Gank better next time. Now quit your whining and try again.

Adapt or Die