Crime & Punishment

The carebears won.

You need to give credit where it is due.

*holds up a picture, then gives one thumb*

This guy!

So remember to send this dude a thank you email, before he sets his CSPA charge higher. Thanks to him, you can now only gank 4 times an hour.

Don't know, but just confirmed what you said in OP. Its a limit to how often you can gank, so pick your targets for value instead of lulz. You are not intended to run rampant and gank as many as possible in the shortest time span...which I belive will just push Hulkageddon into overtime!

And ganking itself nevered changed, its just more risky for you.
^^ incase thread turns into bunch of whiners complaining CCP is out to protect carebears....its to just reduce the collateral damage that you (the players!) can cause not out right stop it!

It's not working. CCP just declared it as an exploit because they can't be bothered to make it work.

I love that thread till ccp killjoy locked the thread

Sad, braindead miners:

I'd looooove to take credit for that nerf.

But sadly I can't.
Smodab Ongalot deserves that honor.

In reality, his tactics were nerfed twice.

-First, CCP stealth sped up Concord's response time when boarding a new ship then warping while GCCed.
-then, they made it impossible to board or eject from a ship in space, while GCC'd.
-they swapped the mandatory GCC pop-up default from 'yes' to 'no'.
-they prevented warping away after a gank. (even though the 'exploit' was shooting after warping, not just warping)
-they disabled the Orca's fitting service.

All within the space of a few weeks - from a company that can't be bothered to even fix the Orca's bugged 'stealth' cargobay.

Of course, making some of our ganking tactics public was simply a clever ploy.
My true purpose was to discover where CCP Devs live!

Answer: Please use nice words only. - Guard

No, blame CCP.

They would have discovered this anyway, simply because warping and ganking is a very visible action to everyone in a belt.

There was no need to nerf this, except to appease crybears who can't be bothered to tank.

Killing freighters wasn't even 'OP' - because the counter was SO easy: a random single frigate with a disruptor locking down the outlaw for a few seconds until Concord arrives.

Agreed.
My own guess is that after locking the initial primer, they simply were going to stealth nerf it at some future point, possibly Inferno. The freighter kills (someone else - I hadn't made that particular leap, cool as it was) seemed to bring the emergency reaction.

I kind of hoped that there was a Dev or two that would have an open mind. But I was wrong.

The 'worst' case scenario that caused all the emo-rage? (even Red Frog threatened to 'shut down'....pathetic)
A single Tornado killing a freighter.

To do that you

A) need someone to bump the freighter repeatedly.
B) Tank the gate guns (no mean feat in a T3 BC)
C) A lot of time, without interference from, well, anybody - on busy trade routes.

Anyone attempting it would be 'red'. A single escorting Rifter - or even just a bystander with a disruptor could easily thwart the attempt. Really, it was more of a parlor trick than anything else. If freighter pilots simply adjusted and used the tools they already had, rather than crying to mommy, boomeranging a freighter would fail every time.


Would that make AFK flying freighters dangerous? Yes.
Would that mean Freighters would require escorts in highsec? Probably.

Are either of those things 'bad for the game'? Not at all.
Just a minor inconvenience for freighter pilots who are addicted to easy AFK trading profits with no risk.
I know, I fly them - and have lost a couple myself.

Whats kind of sad - is that it would have even provided an interesting opportunity for younger pilots to work as highsec freighter escorts....thats REAL game content, not BS like manufactured 'ooh-scary Incursions' or LVL 4 missions.

Miners are risking themselves to mine, but you don't want to risk your precious ship and ISK to kill miners.

This is a sad day when tables have turned and gankers are whining and carebearing more than the miners themselves.

Geeze... stop the drama already.
You are disgracing the ganking profession. Your tears can fill oceans man. oceans!
And you have only yourself to blame.


P.S
To be honest, sometimes I feel like you are a carebear yourself, whom got ganked that way and came to "tell us" about it in the hope CCP close that door.
Else I don't see the reason for the so much forum warrioring from your side about it.

But extending the ability to prevent from getting ganked by CONCORD is an exploit of mechanics

- While in warp, they can't target you.
^^ oops, sorry to point that out. Couple of extra seconds everytime you warped
- CONCORD has response time, not kill time.
^^ oops, sorry to point that out. CONCORD responds by arriving on grid and can be pulled away. Since CONCORD needs a few seconds to arrive and lock your ass down...but you evaded it...you extended it and run rampant.

End result - You found a loophole. CCP said you can't evade CONCORD, but it doesn't say you can't extend that evasion either. They had to finally close that loophole to "One strike, BOOM!" They didn't remove ganking or give immunity, they just require that you find a more worthwile target when you do it and strike hard...then thats it, you don't get a free refill after refill of killmails like its a fast food resturant after buying one drink (or in this case, free ship kills after buying it once) until you toss the cup into the trash (CONCORD blowing up your ship in this case)