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Increasing the complexity of mining ?
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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-04-13 20:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Javajunky wrote:
The fact is most serious miners are multi-boxing ....you're running boosts, multi-hulks, your hauling or crunching ore and most importantly your watching local or even ratting on your alt or scouting adjacent systems for hostile traffic with that alt.

Mining is busy enough, or its incredibly relaxing - either way - it's working as intened so suck it.



I agree.. basic mining doesn't need to change much at all .. just add some new types of mining, new minerals, and maybe a dedicated gas harvesting ship.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-04-13 21:31:16 UTC
Ya know, I'll bet the guys at NASA or maybe even an alien race is reading this and thinking, "Yeah, this is way we should do it. When we start mining the Mars/Jupiter belt, this will be our plan."

Actually, I kinda like it the way it is now exactly because I can read, do homework, watch a moive, sharpen my stiletto, and drink beer all while mining (especially if I'm the one in the Orca).

If mining were to get a revamp, and simultaneously make mining more entertaining, then a system like your proposal would be great. But, if we went that far, I would want it to be like PI. You spend time setting it up, and then log off and/or go off and do other things, then come back and haul off the goods.

On another perspective, if all belts were turned into grav sites, i.e., you have to scan down all roidz, as I and many others have suggested for a long time, then your plan would fit nicely as a way to work those sites. It would turn mining into a fun activity rather than its current state of a boring job.
Naschen
Raffen Relikt
#23 - 2012-04-14 07:01:30 UTC
Any mini game repeated enough times becomes a pain in the A. especially when you play said mini game for the result it gives you and not because you want to play the mini game.

I'm looking at you Mass Effect 1 & 2 (only 2 games that I have personally played that made you stop and play what is essentially a different game to get something)
Tenris Anis
Schattenengel Clan
#24 - 2012-04-14 12:02:27 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
If you made mining a complex, non-afk activity then the only people doing it would be the botters. Be prepared to pay 5 million ISK for a Rifter, because I know I wouldn't be mining if I was making less than 10 mill an hour and had to be glued to my screen.


Sounds good to me. As long as the payment is correct and the activity is not to boring, mmo players will ALWAYS do this. Its a lesson learned in the last 10 years of mmorpgs. If a players can chose between a less fun, but more rewarding activity and a way more fun activity with less rewards, players always chose the less fun activity.
In other words, in the sandbox people always will mine if they get paid. And as we need ore for ships, and ships for pvp, we will always have to pay miners IF mining can not be easy automated.


Remove insurance.
GreenSeed
#25 - 2012-04-14 18:34:48 UTC
this is a terrible idea... of the minerals that come from mining im willing to bet most come from multiboxers running 4-6 hulks + 2 orcas. not just because of the ammnt of extractors, but also because they have the mining logistics set up properly.

proper mining is ALREADY complex, cycling 12 , 18 strips over multiple clients, while manually moving ores to hauler AND watching lolcal and Dscan is already difficult. making it MORE difficult will simply make botting more profitable.... because there isnt ANY complication that can be introduced on a repetitive task that a bot cant do better than a human... Short of introducing capchas on strip miners...
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