Market Discussions

Just wondering and looking for input. This seems to be one mineral that hasn't had any real change in price since the new changes. Im sitting here wondering why?

There are two factors contributing to this and are probably obvious at this point.
-Drone Region changes.
-Removal of t1 loot drops.


Isogen from mining comes from only two sources in high-sec Omber and kernit, both of these are among the lowest isk/per m3.
From the old blog from CCP telling us where are minerals are coming from it stated that 53% of isogen comes from loot and about 20% from drone regions. So with both of these effectively gone or nerfed to the ground isn't the supply coming in diminished dramatically? Also miners probably aren't going to be mining some of the 2 least isk making rocks. I realize there are vast stockpiles of this mineral but is it a wise long term investment?

I also noticed it spiked almost up to 170 iskp/u yesterday in jita before quickly going down.. as if someone bought ALOT of it.

Discuss

It's funny that people still take that old blog's numbers as the gospel truth even though it's hideously out of date.

So does no one have any intelligent theories on future isogen prices?

A lot of ship production does not require Isogen and/or Nocxium. This is especially true for smaller ships. Thus, because the demand for those mats is lesser than for the others, their prices remain steady.

This might change given that T1/M0 mods will no longer drop from mission rats. Since many mods DO require iso and or nocx, the price may jump. I've already started to hoard a good bit of the stuff speculating that the price will jump considerably with Inferno.

Just my opinion.

It's been as high as 120, long ago. Would not be surprised to see it reach that again. How soon, how long, if higher, who knows.

There's simply not enough demand for Isogen compared to the supply.

This is *slowly* changing, as Omber finally climbed over 100 ISK/m3 this week (the other hi-sec ores are 160-220). But since a lot of folks have gone to Amarr regions to mine Pyrox, they snarf up the Kernite that is there at the same time and feed the Isogen glut.

It might finally catch up to the other ores in May/Jun/July - it depends on which ship hulls are "hot" and how much Isogen they require and how much existing Isogen came in from the drone regions or meta-zero drops.

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Look at the 90 day intrinsic price; it has changed. I'm not sure how much change you are looking for. I would'nt be surprise if it hits 150 in the future.

Sometime around the Dominion expansion, I took about 200 blueprints originals and made calculations to figure out "fair prices" for minerals.

I arrived at two conclusions:

1. I could make a ton of ISK doing Insurance scams.
2. The mineral requirements for manufacturing versus the minerals in the ores where out of whack.

CCP smartened up and made insurance scams non-viable.
But I believe Tritanium and Pyerite still makes up about 80-95% of the material requirements for T1 manufacturing.

Pax didn't really "cap" isogen as well as it capped nocx. Only two units per book, into a much larger daily volume of use.

If you need further proof, nocx prices only really got to break-even on PA around mid-march and Isogen steadily rose throughout the entire time period, whereas nocx only took off once PA was removed.

it looks like iso is steadily climbing now? ...

I'm going to guess that its going to break 100isk/u over the next week or so if it doesnt lose momentum :S

not sure if to buy now <,< or wait :D