Ships & Modules

Since PVP knowledge alludes most miners (and greed seems to permeate all of you more then sensibility) I have elected to post a decent "Hulk Fit" for this age of EVE's evolution. ATM, do to hulkageddon, Minmatar's stupid high alpha and a blaster buff, everything is dieing in record numbers. Empire is no longer just "Not Safe" there are gankers online 23/7 in every market hub, and they will scan every ship and every shuttle as they fly by. If your mining in a hulk, unless you are in a deep dark system somewhere... some ganker is pretty much on his way.


So... Here is what a PVP guy has learned about mining in a fairly short amount of time.




The Tanked Hulk (that you should all be flying now)
(Requires a Engineering EG-604 implant)



Stats: 33,776 EHP
Resists: 71.7 % EM, 85.8% Thermal, 83% Kinetic, 84% Explosive.


[Hulk, Tanked]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I




Commentary On Build

The resists in the Kin, Therm and explosive range is key. +80% puts this build's resistance right up there with a mission drake, only with 1/2 the EHP. That means ALLOT when you're taking volley hits before concord shows up. Trust me. Your yield is 1,695with Orca bonus, and 1,209 without. So minus two mining laser upgrades, you are losing only 200 per cycle without an orca, and 300 with one. Now if you do the math, yes that sucks a little bit... but the ISK you and your corporation saves in Hulks will equal itself out in the end.




As it turns out, you can do the same thing with Tech I Industrial ships as well. This version is an Iteron Mark V. Its resists are 75.9, 77.2, 72.8, 77.4. It has 26,724 EHP and a passive regen of 114

It can also still carry 15,545 M3's which is more then enough for most practical purposes.



[Iteron Mark V, Tank]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I





Truth be told, ganking in Empire may be getting out of hand when Jita becomes a practical no fly zone for freighters, industrials and ore ships. But that does not mean that you have to fly glass ships and except being fodder for the masses. There is a big diff between two idiots tearing you down with little not no effort while you're on auto pilot, and it requiring a small, coordinated fleet to do the same thing. You have been notified.

Where do scanner and MLU modules go? Or are you saying that they have been made obsolete by PvPers?

You can do this, but I'd prefer having the higher thermal resists to stem blaster volleys myself.






IMO Danny John-Peter's recommendation is crap because it requires either an Orca or can mining. The Hulk can at least stand alone as a decent mining ship pulling ore.

Scanner goes on the Orca and the MLU stays at home, simple as that.

Since we cry about stuff: I want a 1000 DPS Tengu with 250k ehp... and please T2 fitted.

No, they cannot tank. It is the reason why we have these threads and the glorious EFT warrior fits.

Whose Orca? You mean the miners now shall dock their Hulk at their Orca, scan the belts and then lock on? How is this working?

And what do I do with cargo expanders and mining drone rigs?

When ther's more than one ship mentioned, some ppl think of alts. I may remind you, that we play an MMO game.

[Hulk, Less Tanked Hulk MLU]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Small F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

That has a MLU, and still has 24k EHP (26 if you OH the invuls, which of course you will because you will be in front of the Keyboard)

No. A Rokh can tank, this cannot. One neut and the tank is off.

No, A Rohk can tank like a freakin beast. Better then most other non-capital ships in EVE. The hulk build that I posted still gets these resists when the Invuls are shut down by neuts: 59.6, 81.5, 75.7, 77.4 and a decent 25,320 EHP. The critical elements of high resists in the Kin, therm range are still there.


So you see, you do not know anything about PVP.