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Ded complexs - scanning

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TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-10 20:22:12 UTC
We all do it, we get bored from time to time and try something we've not done in some time. Last week I thought I'm gonna set up a nice complex ship along side my scanning character.

Now take into account I have pretty high scanning skills in a rigged CovOp.

I do reside in nullsec but also have a empire base of operations too but In 7 days I have not found 1 DED complex. I have found loads and loads of unrated sites, some do have chance of faction spawns from which the better drop was a 55% True Sansha hardener so yeah not awesome...

I really wanna find these DED sites, am I missing something? Do you need perfect scanning skills to find 6/10 and upwards? All mine are lvl4.

Any direction is appreciated

/Ste





Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-04-10 20:28:41 UTC
A DED site(or any other) will still who up as a signature regardless of your skills. So unless you have signatures you are unable to get to 100 percent then your skills are fine. As far as not finding any DED sites *shrug*.

I don't really know how the spawning on those work but my guess is you just haven't run into one for whatever reason. Which region are you in?

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#3 - 2012-04-10 20:57:20 UTC
I scanned down a 6/10 in low-sec last night, Sister's probes + 1 grav rig + skills at 3 or 4 (unfortunately I was flying a T1 cruiser Sad). It's not hard to do, but I'm pretty sure they're rare as I get far more WH hits.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#4 - 2012-04-10 21:30:40 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
We all do it, we get bored from time to time and try something we've not done in some time. Last week I thought I'm gonna set up a nice complex ship along side my scanning character.

Now take into account I have pretty high scanning skills in a rigged CovOp.

I do reside in nullsec but also have a empire base of operations too but In 7 days I have not found 1 DED complex. I have found loads and loads of unrated sites, some do have chance of faction spawns from which the better drop was a 55% True Sansha hardener so yeah not awesome...

I really wanna find these DED sites, am I missing something? Do you need perfect scanning skills to find 6/10 and upwards? All mine are lvl4.

Any direction is appreciated

/Ste

If you're just scanning one or two systems you're pretty unlikely to find a rated site. You need to systematically scan lots of systems, just blitz your way through them and ignore the crap signatures.

Stopping to do the unrated sites is a massive waste of your time.

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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-04-11 05:26:12 UTC
If there is a DED complex in the system, it's not that hard to find skill wise.

Finding a system with a DED 6/10 in, however, can take a while. There's only one way to do that, and it's to scan as many systems in as short a time frame as you can.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-11 09:12:08 UTC
Thanks for the info guys

Fly safe

Eugene Spencer
Set Phasers To Malky
#7 - 2012-04-11 09:17:23 UTC
Yeah, keep at it. DED plexes have strange spawn rates too. Sometimes you can go for a couple weeks without any or few hits. Then you'll get a whole load in one go. It all kind of balances out.

I'd do the unrated plexes if you can't find DED ones. There are a few which drop better loot than the DED ones, although you'll need to follow the escalations.

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Neddy Fox
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2012-04-11 09:55:21 UTC
Anything up to 8/10 are probable with unrigged, unbonussed ships with a sisters core launcher and probes.

9/10 en 10/10 need a rigged covop.

In SOV nullsec, there are upgrades for the ihub that increase the chance of a ded plex in local , and is related to the military index of that system.
And yes, we usually probe some 20 systems after DT to find 1-2 rated ones, and a few more unrated ones.
Most common one for us is the 8/10 , then 7/10, then 6, 9 (fleet staging) and 10.

Best times to scan : right after DT , or at 22:00 Evetime when EU guys finished their plexes and go to bed, letting them respawn for the early US guys.
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-11 19:20:18 UTC
Well, Im a bit shocked in truth.

I found a 10/10 today it was the Centus_Assembly_T.P._Co.

I must say my probe strength was 114 but I had to work seriously hard to get it. In fact I had to go and get a 6% implant to get the 100% this was just before DT but as soon as DT was over I went right for it...

When I got there I passed 4 gates, all rooms empty I was pretty annoyed in truth but I thought maybe just maaaaybe the final room was still there after all why would the sig still be there if the site had been completed? To my amazement as I warped in on the accel gate everything was there!! Maybe the guy running it before didn't have the tank to complete it I dunno.

I took the Battleships first, orbiting the station at 51km then ignored the other rats because nothing was hurting my tank at all, I soon figured out that the other rats rep the station or so it felt. So I cleared the other rats out then began operation station assualt...what a bit*h that station is to kill...

As it popped I saw the can and a wreck.

It was good indeed!!

Nightmare BPC
True Sansha heavy neut
Centus X-Type Armor EM Hardener

I am now continuing on my scanning trails!!

Ye haaaaaaaw
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-11 19:39:06 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
We all do it, we get bored from time to time and try something we've not done in some time. Last week I thought I'm gonna set up a nice complex ship along side my scanning character.

Now take into account I have pretty high scanning skills in a rigged CovOp.

I do reside in nullsec but also have a empire base of operations too but In 7 days I have not found 1 DED complex. I have found loads and loads of unrated sites, some do have chance of faction spawns from which the better drop was a 55% True Sansha hardener so yeah not awesome...

I really wanna find these DED sites, am I missing something? Do you need perfect scanning skills to find 6/10 and upwards? All mine are lvl4.

Any direction is appreciated

/Ste







if youre doing it in hi sec, you will only find a 4/10 as best I think.. maybe a 5/10, you need to hit lo sec and null and there will be plenty of good ones for you to find
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-04-11 19:40:33 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
Well, Im a bit shocked in truth.

I found a 10/10 today it was the Centus_Assembly_T.P._Co.

I must say my probe strength was 114 but I had to work seriously hard to get it. In fact I had to go and get a 6% implant to get the 100% this was just before DT but as soon as DT was over I went right for it...

When I got there I passed 4 gates, all rooms empty I was pretty annoyed in truth but I thought maybe just maaaaybe the final room was still there after all why would the sig still be there if the site had been completed? To my amazement as I warped in on the accel gate everything was there!! Maybe the guy running it before didn't have the tank to complete it I dunno.

I took the Battleships first, orbiting the station at 51km then ignored the other rats because nothing was hurting my tank at all, I soon figured out that the other rats rep the station or so it felt. So I cleared the other rats out then began operation station assualt...what a bit*h that station is to kill...

As it popped I saw the can and a wreck.

It was good indeed!!

Nightmare BPC
True Sansha heavy neut
Centus X-Type Armor EM Hardener

I am now continuing on my scanning trails!!

Ye haaaaaaaw


nice find indeed
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-11 19:42:48 UTC
Yeah I'm doing it solely in null, Although I once got 3 C-Type adaptive nanos from a high sec Serp Phi-outpost so not too bad but I think very few and far between In empire.

I'm certainly concentrating in null sec right now, especially after today which kinda got me much more interested :)
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2012-04-11 20:19:03 UTC
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Liliana Rahl
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#14 - 2012-04-11 22:43:22 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:


Stopping to do the unrated sites is a massive waste of your time.


Purely subjective.
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End
#15 - 2012-04-12 00:28:50 UTC
This is high-sec/low-sec but my experience is:

Unknown sites:
~50%-60% wormholes
~30%-40% Unrated Escalation Sites
~10% DED RATED Sites (2,3,4,7s)


Tons of wormholes; fewer unknown combat sites.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.

Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#16 - 2012-04-12 00:36:34 UTC
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
This is high-sec/low-sec but my experience is:

Unknown sites:
~50%-60% wormholes
~30%-40% Unrated Escalation Sites
~10% DED RATED Sites (2,3,4,7s)


Tons of wormholes; fewer unknown combat sites.


I take it you're not filtering out the crap bands? Because once those are eliminated, the hit rate goes way up.
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End
#17 - 2012-04-12 00:41:14 UTC
If i'm understanding you correctly, correct, I do not have deep space scanner probes yet so I'm unable to filter out based on initial signature hit.

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Mila Rasnik
Magnum Research
#18 - 2012-04-12 09:31:04 UTC
Svodola Darkfury wrote:
If i'm understanding you correctly, correct, I do not have deep space scanner probes yet so I'm unable to filter out based on initial signature hit.


Sure you can, you just have to allow for the distance from the probe. Not as accurate and usually takes more than one probe, but still works and saves a lot of time.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#19 - 2012-04-13 07:26:11 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
When I got there I passed 4 gates, all rooms empty I was pretty annoyed in truth but I thought maybe just maaaaybe the final room was still there after all why would the sig still be there if the site had been completed? To my amazement as I warped in on the accel gate everything was there!! Maybe the guy running it before didn't have the tank to complete it I dunno.


i love it when that happens :)

TriadSte wrote:
Nightmare BPC
True Sansha heavy neut
Centus X-Type Armor EM Hardener

I am now continuing on my scanning trails!!

Ye haaaaaaaw


someone got hooked ^^
TriadSte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-04-14 10:31:34 UTC
Oh hell yeah I'm hooked!!! Yesterday I got a Sansha provincial HQ but the luck wasn't with me on this one as It didn't escalate. I also had to get a corpie in to help me take down the station as It repped full armor for every torp it fired so we needed alot of DPS to take this down.

We used a Tengu, Raven and an absolution. No drop from the station neither but the True Sansha battleship was also rubbish with just a diamond tag :(

The luck of the draw I guess.

So so so much fun I can't recommend it enough to anyone wanting to try these out.