Intergalactic Summit

To the point that I have no reason to hide any intentions from anyone in this medium of communication, and as the CEO of a corporation who has by no means whatsoever ever engaged on anything harmful to any economic activity the known alliance called Intaki Prosperity Initiative may have in Placid, and more specifically at the Viriette constellation, I come here to openly state having the general public as testimony that I am making a business proposition to given alliance that also works towards Intaki prosperity.

DuPont is a corporation that was forged on seeking profit parameters. There is no other reason for our slogan to be "Flipping the coin and winning both sides". DuPont not only keep planetary activities in Intaki, Brarel, and Agoze, but also on a C5 Anoikis system where it keeps planetary activities, high end LADAR exploration, minerals refining and manufacturing of goods, and one of the more important things, we keep a science team to explore the Talocan civilization as Vechtor already brought public on this IGS thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=48091

With that in mind, I still believe though that it is possible to achieve returns of scale and therefore profits, still making reasonable investments on things that can really bring prosperity and economic progress.

DuPont is offering IPI the proposition to build THE FIRST TRUE INTAKI SHIPYARDS, in the Intaki system.

The idea is simple and perfectly executable.

DuPont would take the responsibility to assemble, keep and refuel half the costs of a station orbiting a suitable moon in the Intaki system, with Ship Assembly facilities. The other half of the installation costs, as well as half the costs of refueling the station and any other costs with defense the station would need would be responsibility of IPI.

Once the station is structured and has ship assembly arrays online, IPI would have someone in charge to manage ship manufacturing contracts, meaning:

- To accept mineral/components and BPCs needed to assemble ships at Intaki 5-5 Astral Mining station, charging the same price CAS station at Agoze would charge and openly from any interested capsuleer;
- To transport given materials and blueprints to the shipyards in order to begin ship manufacturing;
- To transport finished ships back to Astral Mining station at 5-5 in order to be delivered to the contractor;
- To keep registry of every ship manufactured at the shipyards for auditing purposes and publicity to the Intaki society;

It may seem difficult to actually make profits with this activity, as the initial investment and POS fuelling to start this venture would be in the range of 700MM-1 Bil ISK. Still, given station can generate cash from other activities it can have at the same time. This would be something to be discussed further, directly between both organizations leaders/operating officers.

What I'm offering is the sharing of risks on something truly great to the Intaki community, something that would bring attention from anyone in New Eden. Suffice to say that if IPI takes it into consideration without DuPont Enterprises help as I'm offering, or taking other parties help, the same goal would be achieved. In my understanding, a more legitimate one than simply using Agoze CAS station in terms of Intaki Prosperity initiatives.

As a voting member of the IPI council, I can tell you that as long as Vechtor is a member of your corporation I will never support such a partnership.

Given all that he's been involved with in the past, I trust him less than the squids and that's quite an accomplishment.

Fire him publicly and I'd be willing to entertain a discussion. Otherwise this is a dead deal in my book.

"Give us money so we can set up a starbase. We'll let you 'own' half of it (and pay for half the fuel too)!"

Seems legit.

I'm sorry but portraiting Vechtor of something he isn't with such strong proofs to support his defense is something that is completely outside our agenda. Vechtor has a history of dedicated works towards Intaki security and prosperity that goes way beyound your efforts to that same end.

By the way I never saw you in Intaki.

Thank you Ms Vitalia. My proposition was directed to IPI because theoreticaly they are the most interested part working towards real Intaki prosperity. But I don't see why we coudn't study other models...

I'll get in touch with you.

Ms DuPont,

Please let me take a moment to ensure I understand your proposition correctly.

You would like to cooperate with IPI to build what you believe would be the first "true" Intaki shipyard.

DuPont Enterprises would be responsible for...

ILF/IPI would be responsible for...


For the moment, let's set aside the fact that only members of the corporation which owns the starbase (and their alliance-mates, where applicable) can be granted roles to access deployed arrays, which means there can be no "shared" ownership--for IPI to be "responsible" for everything you are proposing, DuPont could not assemble nor "keep" the starbase.


Really? You want me, as IPI President, to ask our industrial pilots to effectively double their work? Then you want me, as ILF Isha-Sainika, to ask ILF's combat pilots to double their work? While you contribute......essentially nothing other than some fuel blocks? Exactly what risk would you be sharing?

This proposition seems more like 5%-10% responsibility for DuPont and 90%-95% work for IPI.

Since the general public is unable to access starbases which do not belong to them, I will grant you that using contracts as a workaround is perhaps worth considering. But then, ILF already owns a starbase in Intaki so there is no reason to set up another one. If our Silpa pilots are agreeable to the added workload of monitoring third party contracts this is something we could do out of our existing location as a percentage of our available manufacturing jobs. Thank you for the idea.

Still, I'm sure other corporations would prefer not to wait for our pilots to tend to their contracts, and the facilities in Agoze are freely available to anyone, thus IPI will still be proceding with our Agoze initiative.

If you want to foster cooperation between your organization and IPI, perhaps DuPont would consider contributing the fuel blocks or equivalent ISK of what you figure you would have spent on this "true Intaki shipyard" to the existing ILF starbase.

As for Layla Saitana's comments... She is a duly appointed representative to IPI and her voice carries much weight in the council. Personally, I also happen to agree with her.

Fair enough. Woudn't expect anything different from an open minded person like you.


Precisely.


I was generaly speaking. I am well aware of the restriction CONCORD laws imposes on the who can own and use what regarding starbases. Generaly speaking, a joint venture such as this would imply in one of the parts being in fact anchoring every structure and using it. Generaly speaking, the way DUPO could be helping with that would be like buying part of the given POS, haulling arrays to Intaki if necessary, assisting your pilots on what is possible to initiate operations and so on... By keeping it, generaly speaking, DUPO would be responsible to buying half of its fuel, haulling fuel to Intaki if needed etc. The way I wrote at this IGS was a general proposition, for starters, and wasn't my intention to go deep into the details of how this would be implemented, which I believe would not be in the scope of this thread.



I don't want anything, it was a proposition... The way I made the proposition was a gesture of good faith, so, indeed, you would be in control of the day-to-day tasks. If this implies in double or tripple work to your industrial and/or combat pilots, I see it as the result of you working on something major, bigger than what you have been doing so far. But how would I manifest the well intentions I had if this occured differently? If by any chance I proposed that DUPO would be in charge of all the industrial work, woudn't you assume that your role in this endeavour would be reduced by simply "refuelling a station"? Considering IPI is an alliance fully devoted to Intaki, this doesn't sound so absurd to me...

Amusingly enough, the same could be said of your proposal. Just swap out the acronyms and a couple words:

The proposed DUPO starbase would not be a public shipyard in the sense that no one can freely fill a pipeline of industrial manufacturing such as people normaly do on general megacorps stations. Why would anyone justify donating such a big amount of resources on something that is not so clearly working towards anyone but DUPO?

This is cute.

Did Vechtor put you up to this, Jeane DuPont?

I don't know how this could be a scam if DUPO would be taking this ammount of risks with things happening in a pipeline where things don't happen if previous organization doesn't take place.

As for selling what we are buying, I knew this could happen since my first post when I stated