Science & Industry

Is this the only justification that people think minerals and ore will skyrocket after inferno hits on the 24th?
Basically from what i read on the site is that mining will be the well the only way to get the minerals for building all of the toys for the universe. Wouldn't this cause a dramatic increase in mineral prices all around the board? Minerals have already gone up a decent bit but this maybe after a week or two after inferno will cause a great deal of change and costs for everything on the market.

Ill prob get flamed for asking this =P

You can thank the MD elite for extracting these tears.

No, there won't be "increased profit from mining". A miner will have to mine the same number of hours in order to build a Raven before the nerf as they will after the nerf. Miners will be able to "ride" the inflation wave while ISK generating activities will fall behind.

Or in other words, miners won't be getting richer, mission runners and incursion runners are going to get poorer. Depending on how significant this next "inflationary period" will be, expect the 'rank-and-file' of EVE to move away from larger ships to smaller ships. I personally hope that we will see a significant proliferation of T1 cruisers and frigates amongst the EVE population. Too many people fly exclusively larger/expensive ships. We need more cheap PvP (which is what drives manufacturing profits).

Instead of flying battleships, I would expect to see a surge in the use of HACs/faction cruisers

Example: The price of a dominix is rapidly approaching the price of an Ishtar/Gila.

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I disagree with your logic. Say that I as a miner (not an industrialist, just a miner) mines 100k trit each hour. I have t1 miners, my ship paid for, and am a smart pilot who does not get yanked. If the price of trit rises, I make more isk per hour without any increase in expenses.

Your assumption is that a miner must convert a mineral into a resource to profit. Yes, the minerals required to build a raven won't change. However, why would you make a ship that by my calculations has an under 1% profit margin to begin with. No industrialist would stick with ravens when a thrasher makes a comperable profit per ship, requires less resources, and sells at a faster rate.

The facts are that we won't know how this affects the market until it is implemented. Obviously ore prices will go up. How much is anyone's guess. Eve's economy is complex and anyone who talks about the depth of change is only offering opinion.

Mining will be more profitable. I believe the point that someone was trying to make is that, relatively speaking, people who mine exclusively for income will not be better off because the prices of everything will inflate to compensate for the added cost of the minerals required to make the item.

I think miners will be somewhat better off myself but I don't see mining becoming more profitable than other things. I still see it as one of the least profitable activities in the game (and rightfully so) when compared to missioning, arbitrage or plain old station trading of the bid/ask spread.

That is not true, because not all products are tied to minerals. For instance the effort to get a T2 ship or faction loot will get lower for a miner.

If you actually took the time to look at the materials required for a T2 ship, the T1 ship portion of the price is very small.

Even if the T1 version of a ship triples or quadruples in price, the overall T2 production cost would not be affected much.

Increased prices on moon goo on the other hand...

Additional hulkageddon starts and we are seeing more bots banned. So yes, we may see again decent mineral prices. It is about time. Miners need to get paid, and to achieve this, we need to blow up as much miners as we can to sort out bots and careless afk miner.

AFK is not and never should be a kind of lifestyle in eve. Burn them all, and pay the price with a smile.

Drone drops were accountable for IIRC 40% of the monthly minerals added to the Eve universe, and there hasn't been any data on how much minerals are added to the universe from reprocessing T0 modules. Much of this will be replaced by new players training into miners, or players who have previously mined but stopped because of the un-profitability of the profession compare to other isk making careers. But this will only happen if the isk value of minerals stay high. There will be a huge increase in miners for the next few months, prices will decrease, players will stop mining (no longer worth it) and prices will increase until a happy medium is found.

There are currently huge stock piles of minerals that will get sold off and used over the next few weeks that will most likely keep the market somewhat stabilized but at the same time a huge portion of items / ships were bought off the market to be reprocessed, which means chances are the ship / item market is going to be far more less volatile than minerals.




There are alot of minerals that are stock piled atm




Ammo should not be affected at all and should drop at the same frequency it currently does. CCP stated it will be T0 modules, and Ammo isn't a module ;)