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Destroyer vs 325mil is balanced.
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Livie Revetoile
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-04-10 13:10:47 UTC
I've heard about a line of ships called logistic ships. I've heard they were able to keep a ship alive despite a whole fleet shooting at it.
Is that kind of thing ganked miners are looking for ?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#102 - 2012-04-10 13:52:56 UTC
Great troll thread. Love the brevity of the OP and her continued efforts to push it along.

And yes, a destroyer can kill a hulk. Also an orca, just not in a gank.

I can disable a bulldozer with my bare hands. Why? Because it's not built to withstand attack. It's built to do one job really well.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#103 - 2012-04-10 17:31:47 UTC  |  Edited by: sYnc Vir
Avila Cracko wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:



Please, please, please give mi that fit... Roll
subtract like 10k and you have your number.


My pleasure.
3 t2 strips
Meta 4 MSE, 2x T2 Invulns, t2 em resist amp
T2 DCU, T2 MAPC
2 X CFDEs

My EFT shows 36933 Ehp vs omni damage type with the orca having a mining mindlink, worst is vs thermal. You get 39651 if you give the orca pilot a shield mindlink but then you might a well use a vulture

A boosting tengu takes it to 42788....



Well... all i can say thnx man.
But... thats a "little" $$$$$$$$$ fit and "little" skill intensive to fit...[/quote]

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Medium Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

Mining Drone II x5

Set up your 4 optional tabs to the four common ores, unless in Amarr or Gal space then add either the Kernite or Omber to Pyrox. Less overall EHP than the one above just 33k with Mining Link Orca booster, however 84.5 Heat resist, so Cats are less of a problem. Its also cheaper. However you will have to train the skills. Nothing is too much training when it comes to saving your ship. Not having the right skills at the right level doesn't make your death unfair. Train the passive shield skills to 5 for EM and Heat. Get Energy Management to 5, Shield Upgrades 5, get shield rigs 4 it will lower you sig. If a Nado warps in orbit your orca. Hell if you have an orca, after they fire the first shot, board a ******* Rupture from the orca and whore on the dumbasses lose mail. Post it in local, say GF continue mining.


Lanasak wrote:
I was ratting with a Tengu in nullsec and a single Hurricane murdered me

yes, it is balanced. get lost.


Only way to lose a TENGU to a cane is to be a god awful tengu pilot. Hope you fitted the next one better cause god damn, tengu's **** battlecruisers for fun.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
#104 - 2012-04-11 21:36:56 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Why are Hulks so @#!#!@ing expensive.
ORE must manufacture Hulks by welding ISK together.


Technetium.

We've been using more than could possibly be produced since before i started PLAYING EVE, let alone caring about tech.

Also: when i boost WH miners i use the laser time link, the shield resist link, and the skirmish sig radius link.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#105 - 2012-04-12 01:35:27 UTC
If hisec is to dangerous, try wormhole space. There's an average of 0.5 pilots active per wormhole - the chances of dying are infinitesmally lower.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Kolvin Trask
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2012-04-12 03:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kolvin Trask
Dbars Grinding wrote:
This is clearly fair.


Buy a Rohk. Put 8 mining lasers on it. Put a bunch of mining laser upgrades in low, and a full t2 shield tank in the middle.

Laugh at dessy gankers.


When you buy a specialized mining vessel, you lose defensive capabilities.

The mining Rohk I described costs a third as much as a hulk, and mines faster than a hulk without proper crystals or type 1 strips, somewhat slower than a hulk with proper crystals and type 2 stripminers.

You can fix this problem, save ISk, and not lose much in the way of mining capability.
Kolvin Trask
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-04-12 03:55:18 UTC
double post
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#108 - 2012-04-12 06:36:09 UTC
Dbars Grinding wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
[quote=Dbars Grinding]fk it. canceled my sub. [/quote

You'd rather quit than try a different fit?



a different fit to make even less isk than i make right now? Think i might keep this account open to post daily about how bad this game is.


No don't. Please cancel your sub as you stated you had earlier in the thread. That would be win/win. You would get food and we would have better forums.

https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
Kraschyn Thek'athor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2012-04-12 08:06:55 UTC
1. Join a mining corp, put up camp, some alts with sensor-boosted throw away Ospreys and Hulks that have at least a bit of a tank. Eve is not intended as an solo player game.

2. Don't fly what you can't replace 2-3 times

3. Have allways a backup ship ready to go.

4. A mediocre tanked Hulk survives the common Gank-Brutix in 0.5 alone.


Whenever we did some Highsec Mining camp for fun, we never lost a ship. 1-2 Scimitars and some warfare links doing little wonders. ;)
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#110 - 2012-04-13 17:43:28 UTC
Arzaiuc wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
I could buy an old geo (old p.o.s sad excuse for a vehicle) that barely runs, put a brick on the gas pedal, point it at the closest Ferrari dealer and let it go.

is that fair to the dealer?





Because real life is like EVE in that acts of terrorism have no consequences Roll



In EVE when you shoot and kill someone the police will come and take away your gun and then leave you be.

Thats how REAL it is ! ShockedShockedShocked
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#111 - 2012-04-13 22:15:21 UTC
Livie Revetoile wrote:
I've heard about a line of ships called logistic ships. I've heard they were able to keep a ship alive despite a whole fleet shooting at it.
Is that kind of thing ganked miners are looking for ?


I don't know. Are you saying Logistics ships can stop an Alpha Strike kill?

Cause Alpha killing a Hulk isn't that hard.
Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2012-04-13 22:20:23 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
[quote=Dbars Grinding]fk it. canceled my sub. [/quote

You'd rather quit than try a different fit?



a different fit to make even less isk than i make right now? Think i might keep this account open to post daily about how bad this game is.


No don't. Please cancel your sub as you stated you had earlier in the thread. That would be win/win. You would get food and we would have better forums.



NO U. already made my daily eve is bad post.

I have more space likes than you. 
San Severina
One Point 0
#113 - 2012-04-14 00:29:46 UTC
Dbars Grinding wrote:
This is clearly fair.



LolSmileBig smileCoolLol


poastan in troll thread! Fair, lol. that's funny.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2012-04-14 01:11:20 UTC
Bigger and more expensive is not better.

Also see: Mr. Owl, how many frigates does it take to get to the center of a carrier? (The answer is 20)
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#115 - 2012-04-14 10:25:16 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Ed: Also, how often do you get ganked? Could you take preventative action by mining in anoms, missions, or a less populated area of high sec (Aridia? Genesis? Solitude?)

But, but, but then I would have to fly so far to sell my minerals in Jita because I am too dumb to look for local builders and make a deal with them for their manufacturing needs.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#116 - 2012-04-14 18:06:55 UTC
I remember a time when Hulks were under 200m. :(

The moar you cry the less you pee
Colog
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2012-04-14 18:42:04 UTC
Like real life the only justice and order is what you create for yourself. Three thousand dollar rockets wielded by illiterate 13 year olds destroy million dollar tanks too. You have the same chance as everyone else in game to build a ten thousand man coalition and make a safe place for you to mine veldspar.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#118 - 2012-04-15 00:56:54 UTC
Colog wrote:
Like real life the only justice and order is what you create for yourself. Three thousand dollar rockets wielded by illiterate 13 year olds destroy million dollar tanks too. You have the same chance as everyone else in game to build a ten thousand man coalition and make a safe place for you to mine veldspar.


true but that has people in it, and eve players are dicks.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#119 - 2012-04-15 04:06:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Feldman
sYnc Vir wrote:
Colog wrote:
Like real life the only justice and order is what you create for yourself. Three thousand dollar rockets wielded by illiterate 13 year olds destroy million dollar tanks too. You have the same chance as everyone else in game to build a ten thousand man coalition and make a safe place for you to mine veldspar.


true but that has people in it, and eve players are dicks.


Because random people in real life are all friendly and trustworthy...
Because leaving your garage door open when you leave your house won't result in it getting robbed...
Because a group of teenagers would only talk trash to someone in a video game and never in real life...

The moar you cry the less you pee
Dbars Grinding
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2012-04-15 04:35:57 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Colog wrote:
Like real life the only justice and order is what you create for yourself. Three thousand dollar rockets wielded by illiterate 13 year olds destroy million dollar tanks too. You have the same chance as everyone else in game to build a ten thousand man coalition and make a safe place for you to mine veldspar.


true but that has people in it, and eve players are dicks.


Because random people in real life are all friendly and trustworthy...
Because leaving your garage door open when you leave your house won't result in it getting robbed...
Because a group of teenagers would only talk trash to someone in a video game and never in real life...



everyone is nice to me irl. maybe it is because i wear a NRA hat all the time and have a beard with skoal stuck in it.

I have more space likes than you.