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Why do you not like Little people?

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-04-09 21:05:12 UTC
CCP Guard gets offended

Dodixie > Hek
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#42 - 2012-04-09 21:42:39 UTC
Arzaiuc wrote:
Anyone who tries to get their mother to play EVE in order to mine, isn't a good son.

Well not for long, just as a starter profession until she learns the ropes.

Be damned if I'm going to sling her free ISK without her learning the value of money (sound familiar Mother?) and being blown up in five minutes.

Dunno, she's good at finding bargains, maybe trading would be more her go.

One thing for sure though, she isn't a seven foot tall stick figure and wouldn't want to be.

Is it that much to as to be a chubby, four foot player?
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#43 - 2012-04-09 21:47:43 UTC
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
To live

They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
`Round here

Short people are just the same
As you and I
(A fool such as I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's a wonderful world)

Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
To love

They got little baby legs
That stand so low
You got to pick em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That go beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time
Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
'Round here
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
#44 - 2012-04-09 22:02:23 UTC
Hi im Chris Hansen from dateline NBC why don't you have a seat. You say little people but why would you need a 6 pack of Smirnoff Ice and a pack of jimmy caps if all you were looking for was a little equality.

The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.

One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Nikodiemus
Ganja Clade
Shadow Cartel
#45 - 2012-04-09 23:06:14 UTC
This is the future. There are no fat or short people. But Asians? Yea, we got Asians.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#46 - 2012-04-10 06:17:11 UTC
Nikodiemus wrote:
This is the future. There are no fat or short people. But Asians? Yea, we got Asians.

And black slaves. Don't forget black slaves.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#47 - 2012-04-10 19:26:51 UTC
Nikodiemus wrote:
This is the future. There are no fat or short people. But Asians? Yea, we got Asians.


Asians ARE the future. And no I'm not Asian.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#48 - 2012-04-11 12:03:11 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Nikodiemus wrote:
This is the future. There are no fat or short people. But Asians? Yea, we got Asians.


Asians ARE the future. And no I'm not Asian.
Sure you are not a Sony executive trying out your newly purchased forum?

I'll ask my mother if she would like to be a six foot tall, impossibly thin Avatar and see how that flies.

I hope the universe is ready for her special brand of conversation. "Oh hello, how are you? Say, that's a nice Vexor have you had it long? How much did you pay for it? Ooo I hope it's insured, you never can be too sure in this day and age. Don't forget to update your clone now. Old Mavis McShoe's son forgot to update his clone and where is he now? Retraining Industrial V, that's where he is. And don't forget to EVE Mail your sister for her birthday..."

And so on and so forth.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#49 - 2012-04-11 16:12:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
Graic Gabtar wrote:

Sure you are not a Sony executive trying out your newly purchased forum?



Hah. Sony are in big trouble financially. I think this is their 6th quarter of losses in a row. I doubt they could afford this forum. CCP had better hurry up and release Dust while Sony can still afford to make Playstations...
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#50 - 2012-04-11 21:09:57 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Graic Gabtar wrote:

Sure you are not a Sony executive trying out your newly purchased forum?



Hah. Sony are in big trouble financially. I think this is their 6th quarter of losses in a row. I doubt they could afford this forum. CCP had better hurry up and release Dust while Sony can still afford to make Playstations...
A very good point.

Will there ever be a PS4?
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-04-11 21:29:35 UTC
EVE takes place 40,000 years or so in the future. Considering we went through an extremely long dark age or technology reset when the EVE gate collapsed there would be much malnutrition and shorter average heights. When these are remedied I'd assume each generation would continue to grow taller than the previous much like today.

I'd assume that the average height of someone in New Eden would be anywhere from 6 to 6.5 feet.

Of course there are many factors. People who grew up on planets with less gravity would be taller than those that grew up on planets with more gravity even if there is a slight difference. So I really don't know however I can safely assume that the average height would be what we consider tall.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
CCP Peirz
C C P
C C P Alliance
#52 - 2012-04-11 22:25:16 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
So why are CCP discriminating against little people like this?


Mostly because it complicates animation, especially for interactions with the environment or other players. Also displacements for muscularity, weight, etc generally don't look very good when you just squash them a bit and call it a day. In short, more authoring work.

This was a great question at Fanfest last year during the Avatar technology session, so if you dig that video up on YouTube, be sure to check out the closing QA session.
Vangelios
#53 - 2012-04-11 22:51:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Vangelios
looking forward towards more interaction with environment and players :)

... Each small candle Lights a corner of the dark...
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#54 - 2012-04-11 23:26:47 UTC
HTFU OP

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#55 - 2012-04-12 00:19:52 UTC
Graic Gabtar wrote:
I've been playing around with the character creator and I wanted to change the height of a character.

I want her to be short.

Maybe not world record short, but definitely in the running for a casting call as an Ewok.

And I don't think I can.

Made me think. Isn't that a bit wrong? Shouldn't there be some kind of option for people wanting to recreate their real life physical appearance in game?

I've been trying to get my mother into EVE as she is a bit of a game nut and I think the slow drone of mining lasers would be just the thing for her.

As a surprise I was going to create a character that looked like her. Now that's OK, but she's very short. Just around four feet. I think it would bean insult to make a tall character give the pride she has in getting by in a tall world as a little person.

So why are CCP discriminating against little people like this?




You remind me of a woman I once knew. Not YOU being like her, but she was very short - and for an adult around 30, I'd say way short . She was skinny too, and being so small, had a childish voice. So at age 30 she looked like she was 12.

Needless to say, she was a creep magnet.

I think the character creator should be conservative about extremes on the one hand, but then on the other, perhaps it should go "all out" into the freak zone? Dwarf short or elf tall, he-shes, super fat, rail thin, or just plain Andre The Giant huge.

It would make WiS interesting, but then we will have to deal with the hordes of 12 year olds rolling super freaks and running around the stations in underwear, and that's what Ironforge and Stormwind are for.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Contiesta
Escapism Incorporated
#56 - 2012-04-12 00:55:43 UTC
CCP Peirz wrote:

Mostly because it complicates animation, especially for interactions with the environment or other players.


Like sitting on a couch...and....uh.....standing back up from the couch?
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Stealth Alliance
#57 - 2012-04-12 01:51:49 UTC
CCP, when making my character, the creator wouldn't let me have a 12 foot p3nis, I just want my in game character to look like me, stop discriminating dawg!

Damn nature, you scary!
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#58 - 2012-04-12 11:11:15 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
CCP, when making my character, the creator wouldn't let me have a 12 foot p3nis,


The characters are supposed to look like human beings not gas/petrol station pumps.
Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-04-13 05:12:49 UTC
Contiesta wrote:
CCP Peirz wrote:

Mostly because it complicates animation, especially for interactions with the environment or other players.


Like sitting on a couch...and....uh.....standing back up from the couch?


You'd be surprised how critical that is to get a person's animation right for that sort of thing. Where it may work for a shorter person a tall person would start clipping though objects and we simply can't have that.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
Failccpfails
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2012-04-13 05:48:39 UTC
Why does it matter only your face is seen on your info, and only people who want to see your hole body can even see the height...

tinfoil hat time!

Why you think CCP tested out plex for gfx cards?

So people can afford to run WiS... 80 bill will get you a cool 4way SLI, then you can use WiS with 8 other people! Also likely just the people who had 80 bill around.