EVE New Citizens Q&A

No, a properly fit vexor should be more than capable of doing level 2s.

What is your fit?

ummm that is not a mission setup...

he did ask for your fit, you posted, and I sprayed coffee over my keyboard.

suggestion, after a quick g00gl0r look, as Í don't fly froggie ships:

here and here.

This gives you a basic idea, plus variations. might have to touch up a thing or two depending on your skills though.

You shouldn't breakfast at the computer, Grik, it's bad for your keyboard

Don't get over your head Nate, you don't need T2 mods to survive L2 missions.
First thing, bookmark eve-survival.org and before you accept a mission, look it up on the website to see the type of damage you'll have to sustain (EM/therm/kin/expl) so you can fit the appropriate resists. Keep in mind that some missions are designed to be blitzed unless you have a very tough tank, like "Recon 1/2/3".

Forget the plates for missions, these are better suited as buffer tank for pvp.

Keep the salvage/tractor for your catalyst, that's what those boats are good for, and use the remaining turret slot to increase your dps instead. You can always bookmark a wreck and come back to salvage/loot the wreckage after you completed the mission.

Don't hesitate to warp to 100km of the warp-in beacon when you can, that gives you an idea of where you're headed and can sometimes allow you to aggro only part of the NPC or draw fast ones out of the fray (frigates) to take them down safely.

I don't know Gallente boats much, neither your skilling, but L2 aren't that difficult if you fit your ship correctly...

A vexor is a drone ship. Try to train your drone skills.

You are using a very small bufferplate: 200mm is for frigs. Buffer us also usually used for pvp.
You are using a small armor rep; those are also for frigs. Use at least a medium for cruisers and battlecruisers.
Try to increase your resists. Fit a damage control (and turn it on, it is an active module) and/or resistance plating.
Use the afterburner to keep your speed up. If the missiles are a problem, the higher speed reduces the missile damage. Kill the webbing frigates first.

I did most lvl2 mission in a Rifter or a Dramiel using speed to avoid missiles explosions and turrets. Only with T1 guns. If a little frigate can do it I'm pretty sure a Vexor can tank it correctly. Only a few missions are really "harder".

Like someone said, kill the webber, it slow you down making you a easier target for guns and missiles will do a greater damage to you. If your capacitor is stable or close to be, use your afterburner to gain speed and keep enemy at optimal range.

If you use medium hybrid turrets, use railguns for long range, and focus them on cruiser sized ships. Use drones to take care of smaller one that are difficult to aim with the medium turrets.

Remove the tractor beam and put a 4th gun here. You'll still have a salvager, and lvl2 mission pockets are not really big(you dont have to fly 100km away to get your wreck like in a lvl4). If a wreck is too far you still have the afterburner to get closer to it quickly. Be sure to use a 10mn, 1mn are almost useless on a cruiser. Or you could just use a dedicated salvage ship(a frigate is more than enough, even a Velator). Dont forget, a ship that do everything is never better than 2 specialized ships.

You also have spare low slots, you can put a "upgrade" module here, like a Gyrostab, or a heatsink to maximize DPS. I would also remove the 200mm plating and put some armor resistance booster, which will reduce the amount of damage you take(look eve survival to know what kind of damage this mission will do)

Kick the small armor repairer, use a medium one.

Frigate and Destroyers use small items,
Cruiser/BattleCruisers Medium
BattleShip Large.

Wow.


For a game that encourages people to screw one another over, I've never been disappointed with the amount of information and help people are willing to give on these forums.

Thanks a lot!

I'll take this information into account and try to make some major changes to the ship.

And yes, my toon might be 70 days old but 14 of those days were my trial, followed by a long absence. I just re subbed the other day.

Still learning the ropes here, and thanks again.

A few things I didn't see mentioned (apologies to those who did mention them if it was just my morning blearyness).


1) Read the mission requirements carefully. If you are doing one of the "Recon" missions - you don't actually have to kill many if any rats - you just need to "recon" the area then get out. Your mission briefing if you have it minimized will pop up and tell you in green letters when the mission has been accomplished. Other than the "Recon" missions - most Level II's are trivial and should have been easy to complete - even with your original fit. Oh and - yes - sometimes on the "Recon" missions - the rats do hit you with energy neuts ... If you see this red finger reaching out towards your ship - thats what that is. You can also look at the right side of the screen in your over view and see a little symbol there. Put your mouse pointer over that symbol and it will tell you what it is. If you have some symbol over there that is hurting you - kill that ship first. After you've seen enough of them - you'll be able to recognize those symbols. A little scrolling bar that pops up in the middle of your screen is also a clue that someone is using something like that on you.

2) I use 3 types of charges in my Rails - Anti Matter, Iridium and Iron. This gives me a short, medium and long range capability. If you read the sho info for each charge it will indicate that the ones that add range have less power and vice versa. Load each type of charge that you are going to carry, then right click on that mount and do a show info on the loaded weapon. This will show you what the Optimal and Falloff for that weapon WITH that particular charge loaded. Do that for EACH charge you are going to carry and write down those ranges if you can't remember them. When you engage the enemy - those are the ranges at which you can hurt them - with that charge loaded. Rule of thumb is that you're OK out to Optimal + Fall off but after that aren't going to do much damage.

3) You have two basic tactics to use when mission running. a) Brawling and b) Kiting. If you are Brawling - you fit short range, powerful weapons, dive right into the enemy and kill them faster than they can break your tank. If you are Kiting the enemy - you come close enough to them to get their agro (they start blinking at you) then turn away and let them chase you, using your after burners to control the range and then kill them as they try to close. If you keep them behind you and shoot over your stern at them - this will minimize the tracking problems of your weapons. Rails track less well than shorter range weapons so minimizing their tracking problems helps you hit the rats. The Gunnery Skill Motion Prediction will also help with that.

4) Start the mission with your short range - powerful charges loaded. If the mission dumps you into some **** ... you want to be hurting the rats badly as you point your ship at clear skies and AB your way out of there. If you come in at long range - you will have time to change your charges. Engage the rats from what is the most effective range for that mission. If you can get out of their range - they can't hurt you. This is what drone modules are for, among other things.

5) Fit a Catalyst with 4 tractors and 4 salvagers - use this ship to salvage your missions.

[Catalyst, Salvager]

Tractor Beam I
Tractor Beam I
Tractor Beam I
Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I

1 MN AB
Small Shield Booster

Cargo Hold Expander I
Cargo Hold Expander I
Cargo Hold Expander I


Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]

Hobgoblin I x 1


a) After your salvaging skills improve you can switch out one of those salvagers for another tractor
b) use the AB of you choice
c) if you are salvaging a mission space that has gone away because it has been turned in - you can use a Micro Warp Drive instead of that AB - but - it will cut down you cap
d) Cap is a problem early on until you get your cap skills up (Energy Systems Operation and Energy Management - as well as your Navigation skills).

Always remember to do a Save Location on one of your wrecks or you won't be able to find them if the mission space has gone away. Wrecks & Jet Cans last 2 hours. If you bookmark your first wreck, then kill all the rats in a stream behind you - you can start salvaging at that bookmark (saved location) and just work your way down the path. You can run multiple missions - then get in your salvaging destroyer and run around to savlage them. Sort your People and Places by Date - then take the oldest one first.



Now - the above is all talking about - MISSIONS. This has NOTHING to do with PVP. PVP and PVE fits rarely look anything alike.

Each ship is a tool fit for certain types of work. You can customize that tool for specific jobs. A tool that is designed for one purpose is not so good for another. Saws make bad hammers and vice versa.

Exploration ships - are yet another subject.

Use the right tool for the job - or - for the part of the job you are currently doing.

You can either have more than one ship set up for different jobs - or if the same hull is to be used with a different fit - you can save different fits in the fitting tool if you don't have more than one hull available.



And ... last but far from least ... don't feel bad about not knowing everything the first day ... we were all ******* New Guys once too ...



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So your fit costs triple what mine does(rigs), has barely more than half the damage, and has a completely unnecessary plate that just slows you down... And on top of that, it absolutely requires already having great drone skills.

Many modules that affect the same attribute experience diminishing returns. For two modules, this effect is minor. The second EANM will only be 94% as effective. It's not a big deal for two mods, but the third will be 54%. Effective and the 4th is 27% or so.

The cap booster is ammo. You want to fit a medium capacitor booster l and load it with cap booster 800s or 400s. Activate the mod when your cap gets low. Cap booster charges are big, but you shouldn't need more than 10 800s or 20 400s