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Can anyone advice on corp standings?

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Hunting Yojik
Tax Free Corporation II
#1 - 2012-04-11 13:53:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Hunting Yojik
I've created new corp for hisec POS building, but corp-faction standings seem to not change, despite me doing a lot of COSMOS storylines (bumped standings up from 5.0 to 5.9 last week) Twisted . The corp is more then 10 days old now. Can anyone say either I'm doing something wrong, or something is broken in-game? Also I'd appreciate any advice on what section is to put petiton in (if its broken). Petitioned it in "alliances and corps" but it seems to be either wrong topic or "working as intended" (no answer as of yet Roll) . ADD: I'm the only member of the said corp,and I have active account, and high faction standings with empire where I inteded to put a POS .
Ackemi
The Gaming Avenue
Shadow Ultimatum
#2 - 2012-04-11 14:04:28 UTC
There are a lot of things that could be wrong here, but I would start with corp standings toward empire factions are based on your personal "unmodified" standings in a one person corp.

The "unmodified" means quite a bit...

Are you looking in the corp interface standings tab or your character standings tab?
Hunting Yojik
Tax Free Corporation II
#3 - 2012-04-11 14:11:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Hunting Yojik
Ackemi wrote:
There are a lot of things that could be wrong here, but I would start with corp standings toward empire factions are based on your personal "unmodified" standings in a one person corp.

The "unmodified" means quite a bit...

Are you looking in the corp interface standings tab or your character standings tab?


The problem is exactly in corp interface standings, (the personal ones work as normal) it keeps saying "everyone is negative or neutral towards..." (and "disliked by" tab says roughly the same), for 10 days. What? Maybe I just have missied some sort of refresh button, or similar stuff, I'm pretty noob in this "running a corp" business. And 5.9 - is my personal unmodified standings (modded are around 6.4). Thanks for answering btw Smile

P.S. I wasnt expecting to anchor something as of yet, but some changes to standings is what i definitely expected...
Ackemi
The Gaming Avenue
Shadow Ultimatum
#4 - 2012-04-11 14:18:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ackemi
Sounds like you should be able to drop a POS to me!

Just for grins... Try show info on the faction and go to their standings tab and check the numbers are the same toward your corp.

or

Try putting the POS up anyhow to see what happens. If nothing else you have more information for your bug report.


Addition: It may be a matter of just one more downtime is needed to update the faction standings depending on when you went above 5.0.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#5 - 2012-04-11 14:19:53 UTC
From what i remember you have to go into the corp options and click a button to update your corp standings if you are the new CEO of the corp and it updates the standings then.... was ages ago i did it though.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#6 - 2012-04-11 14:34:58 UTC
See:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1110513#post1110513

Quote:
Problem acknowledged. Daily updates are not so daily for an unknown reason. Looking into it.


So there's a known issue.
Teibor
Quay Industries
#7 - 2012-04-11 15:50:01 UTC
yea, daily seems to be every 3 days according to our standings.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#8 - 2012-04-11 16:34:12 UTC
Hunting Yojik wrote:
with empire where I inteded to put a POS .


You realize you don't need to worry about standings at all if you put a POS in low or null sec, right?
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-11 17:14:23 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Hunting Yojik wrote:
with empire where I inteded to put a POS .


You realize you don't need to worry about standings at all if you put a POS in low or null sec, right?


You do realize he's in a single man corp, right?

Sarcasm and rhetoric go hand-in-hand.
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-04-11 17:22:17 UTC
As was pointed out above there was an issue with corporation standing calculations but it has now been fixed.

I'm not at the office and cannot VPN from here, so I cannot take a look at when you created your corp. But your standings will not start counting for your corp until seven days after it's creation as members must be in a corporation for seven days before their personal standings apply to the corporation standings. If you believe this is not the case then we might have a Murphy on our hands. Blink

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Hunting Yojik
Tax Free Corporation II
#11 - 2012-04-11 18:18:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Hunting Yojik
Ptraci wrote:
Hunting Yojik wrote:
with empire where I inteded to put a POS .


You realize you don't need to worry about standings at all if you put a POS in low or null sec, right?


Sure. Sure i neednt to worry about POS in 0.0-0.3 at all. Pirate Since some good guys are already coming around in a bunch of dreads to blast it away Lol. Though this POS is not for me alone, I know for good how a bunch of carebears will fare in losec or during war. Sad

2All

Thanks, going to check it out as soon as possible!

Well, updated - nothing happens, standng seems to be still neutral. Looked under empire tab - standing to the corp seems 0 (neutral), standing to me - 6.4 (5.91 unmodified).

2 CCP Prism X

Thank you for reply, the corp was created 2012.03.30, so it should have at least 3 days of standing change already. Should I file a bug report on it or add any info to the petition I had filed, to help with resolving this problem Smile?
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#12 - 2012-04-11 23:28:26 UTC
Hunting Yojik wrote:
Since some good guys are already coming around in a bunch of dreads to blast it away Lol.


That doesn't happen as often as you'd think. And there are plenty of low sec alliances that will "rent" you a moon and you can mine moon goo to help pay your fuel bill while you research (of course pick a system with a station so your BPO's are "safe"). EVE is a dangerous place, but station bashing is pretty boring...
Hunting Yojik
Tax Free Corporation II
#13 - 2012-04-12 08:03:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Hunting Yojik
Ptraci wrote:
Hunting Yojik wrote:
Since some good guys are already coming around in a bunch of dreads to blast it away Lol.


That doesn't happen as often as you'd think. And there are plenty of low sec alliances that will "rent" you a moon and you can mine moon goo to help pay your fuel bill while you research (of course pick a system with a station so your BPO's are "safe"). EVE is a dangerous place, but station bashing is pretty boring...


Sure, I didnt want to say it'll get instantly blasted to hell in losec, but eventually (especially if i wouldnt rent a moon from a major alliance) it will be. And most likely before it'll pay off. Big smile Anyway - why rent a moon (paying additional ISK) if I can simply put a POS in relatively safe hisec (where I'll have 24 h of warning, if some ppl would have intention to bash it, and where they are way less likely to do so with only BSs avalible), with minimal additional costs (starbase chapters are cheap as hell if you run missions from time to time)Blink? Also after spending some time in FW - i'm kinda sick of lowsec, bit tired of having my ship blasted from under me by some pirate gang Smile.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#14 - 2012-04-12 11:08:42 UTC
Hunting Yojik wrote:
Ptraci wrote:
[quote=Hunting Yojik] Since some good guys are already coming around in a bunch of dreads to blast it away Lol.


why rent a moon (paying additional ISK) if I can simply put a POS in relatively safe hisec



Because of the standings problem. You are complaining because it's difficult to put a POS in high sec.

Believe me I have had POS in high, low and (currently I'm living in) null. While high sec does offer you a (false) sense of security, the standings issue is definitely a pain in the butt - especially when you have more than a 1 man corp which means that either the other corp member also must have the same or better standings than you with Faction X, or your standings are shot to hell and you can't move your POS or anchor anywhere else until that guy is kicked.

Low sec alliances usually don't charge all that much plus you get the additional benefit of having better planets nearby for PI to make fuel. Any other argument (like oh but in low sec I have to defend the POS more and stick guns on it etc) is false, because if you make too tempting a high sec target you will get war decced and your badly defended POS will get knocked out anyway. Another benefit of low sec is being able to anchor reactor arrays and manufacturing arrays, if you ever want to do more than just pure research.

Of course the best option is null in sov space, but that has it's own set of special requirements (ie, you have to actively defend the space).
Hunting Yojik
Tax Free Corporation II
#15 - 2012-04-12 12:16:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Hunting Yojik
Ptraci wrote:



Because of the standings problem. You are complaining because it's difficult to put a POS in high sec..


Quite incorrect, I'm complaining on what was (in fact) a bug Smile. Not on fact "OMFG I have to grind sorylines to get a standing requirement", I already have high enough standings. Btw it seems that problem was solved , at least GM responding to my petition said so (i'm away from eve now, so cant start anchoring just yet

Ptraci wrote:

Believe me I have had POS in high, low and (currently I'm living in) null. While high sec does offer you a (false) sense of security, the standings issue is definitely a pain in the butt - especially when you have more than a 1 man corp which means that either the other corp member also must have the same or better standings than you with Faction X, or your standings are shot to hell and you can't move your POS or anchor anywhere else until that guy is kicked

Low sec alliances usually don't charge all that much plus you get the additional benefit of having better planets nearby for PI to make fuel. Any other argument (like oh but in low sec I have to defend the POS more and stick guns on it etc) is false, because if you make too tempting a high sec target you will get war decced and your badly defended POS will get knocked out anyway. Another benefit of low sec is being able to anchor reactor arrays and manufacturing arrays, if you ever want to do more than just pure research.


The advantages of low/null POSes you describe is quite true, (exept you can anchor non-capital assembly arrays in hisec as well) I won't argue with that, but hisec has its own set of advantages you dismiss

First - logistics. You dont (unless wardecced) generally have to worry that someone just shoot you, when you bring fuel, materials, etc to your POS. You dont need anything exept your basic indy to refuel it

Second - security is not so false as you describe - you can easily have both guns/EW and max labs your CPU allows in hisec, 'cause you get 24 hours (since wardecced) to bring them guns online. Or (if you dont want to fight) to have POS unanchored and sold Big smile, much surprise to wardeccers

Third - POS bashing in hisec is way more boring (no capships allowed) then in low, if you have good set of defences (even offline) most people will leave you alone (unless you really **** 'em off).

Fourth - no rent, you are absolutely independent of any alliance people. Alliances wage war, lose space (which also can make your POS "defunct"), change policy.