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Is the next move will be to remove the moon harvesting (passive) and replace it with moon mining (active) ?
Is it the way to attract once again miners in 0.0 ?

We used to say : "It should always be more profitable to mine in low and null sec than in high sec".

Small tweaks are the way to go because they can have a great impact on the whole economy.
Most of us should be able to see the greater scheme behind Carebearing 2.

I used to pay morphite 8-10k, Megacyte 6k and Zydrine 3k prior to Apocrypha. Why are my ships so expensive today ? Look at Trit, Pyerite, Mexallon prices. Something behind the mineral basket ?

Today, we should look to the past and the future reunited in the same moment and we will see the whole universe in movement.
I have faith in you CCP. I believe in the Butterfly Effect

Houm... so miners now spend 300 million ISK to set up a Hulk and earn 6 million an hour, and that should change for spending 400 million in a Hulk to earn 8 million an hour.

And what happens when miners have mined 50 hours ?
Are they suppose to wait to ge ganked ?

You have the answer I guess. (Hint : +2 millions/hour if their hulk survive more than 50 hours )

To answer question 2 - at the moment we don't want to make any further changes to Incursions until we see how these changes affect things on TQ. However, this doesn't mean we are done looking at the trigger/spawn mechanics, we would just like to see these changes in action first and get further feedback after that.

CCP Grayscale,
You are aware that "Metal Scraps" are 0.01 in size but refine into 500 (five hundred) titanium?
I believe this is better than any other titanium thing in the game per m3.

Please, convert T0 stuff into the new Pax Amarria instead. It is 0.1 m3 for 3 trit.
You may as well put up NPC sell orders for Tritanium at 0.01 ISK/unit otherwise.

Alloys comparison:
Crystal Compound 1m3, 6 Isogen and 24 Mexallon
Gleaming Alloy 1m3, 3 Nocxium and 768 Tritanium
Lucent Compound 1m3, 12 Isogen, 48 Mexallon, 3 Nocxium, and 192 Pyerite
Precious alloy 1m3, 8 isogen and 128 Pyerite.
Sheen Compound 1m3, 8 isogen, 2 Nocxium, 128 Pyerite, and 512 Tritanium

a) People bought hulks back when they were 400-500M ISK. If they couldn't afford that then they stayed in their Covetors (which are only 15% worse then a hulk at max skills).

b) Since hi-sec ores are currently in the 150-220 ISK/m3 range and a solo Hulk pilot can mine about 100k m3/hr, that means today's hulk pilots are earning 15-22M ISK/hr. Which makes it a lot easier to afford that new hulk, even when using a Covetor.

Sorry Gray Scale this is where CCP raw statistics don't take into account actual play:

Intro
Ask you self why do people mine ABC vs Other ores
– It is not an issue profitable nor there being enough low ends it is an issue of Ease and safety! If those Ores were available then you would find those mining in High sec would be moving to null sec. Decreasing the Demand and Supply There fore no nerf and empire peeps will be able to find more asteroids to mine a buff.

In null sec High ends (ABC) are a lot easier and safer to come by because:
--> System upgrades produce hidden, difficult to scan, High Volume high quality roids that a hulk can sit at mine continuously for hours
--> In Regular belts the unit number may be small but the size per unit is large so a Hulk can get several cycles of a mining stripper off before the asteroid pops
Comparatively To mine Veldspar it is difficult because
-->The units of veldspare are the same number as ABC but the Size per unit is only a small fraction of the size, so they deplete extremely fast
-->This leaves the hulks to mine veldspar on regular belts which is a lot more dangerous as they are on the over view and can quickly be warped to.
--> The units of Veldspar may be large but the volume of veldspar isn't you may only get 2-3 cycles per roid before they pop. Resulting in a lot of partial cycles and a lot of relocating to collect veldspare to complete a manufacturing quota.

My Speciality for the past 5 years has been organizing null sec mining ops, and this is the biggest bottle neck for self sustaining mining in null sec. Other wise the same status quote will happen – Mine Safe High ends in Upgraded belts ship them to empire in exchange for Empire ores in Empire which are compressed plates and jump them to Null sec. I though the current push for null sec is to be independent of Jita

Requested Recommendation:
For hidden Upgraded Belts
--> Substitute the Sportsman Asteroid with Veldspar but increase the unit sizes so a hulk has to mine the same volume to finish it off. (that would be so awesome)
-->Allow us to instal mining upgrade that can change the make up of the asteriod. If there was a level 1 mining upgrade that contained only Empire base ores you would be the toast of the town.(as we could just keep flipping that one belt over and over till we got the empire ores we needed) (this one fix would make null sec self sustainable and allow miners to fill local quotas easily)
-->Allow us to instal mining upgrades that focus on Hebergite and lower would solve the Noxium bottle neck that is currently felt.
For standard null sec belts
--> increase the amount of veldspar in each asteroid
Or Bring out new tools to mine
- Bring out a tool that would allow use to mine multiple asteroids as once ie a Mining drone the size of fighters that can only hit Empire ore types, to allow Carriers and and Super Carriers to mine 10 to 20 asteroids at the same time. Via jet can mining. Leaving the high end and longer to mine asteroids for barges to complete.

When dominion came out, the mining up grades encourage mining for profit (ship it and sell it to jita) not mine for local production.
Nerfing the drone regions of ores will not increase the number of miners on the bets. It will just limit the production with in that one region. (the CSM didn't ask the right people what will solve the problem.)

In summary:
Make all ores as easy to come by as ABCs. This will encourage the miners who would have been out in null sec for production out there. As it sits with the Dominion Expansion they are in empire where Empire ores are easier and safe to come by. Also remember Upgrade Belts Flip, Regular belts don't.
Increasing the access and safety to Empire ore will move those miners who mine for production out to null sec, there for decreasing the supply and demand for Empire ores resulting in a Buff to empire mining since asteroids will be easier to come by.

You will still get 425mm Scout Autocannons, you will not get 425mm Autocannon I's.

It's a shame *all* drone alloys and such are being removed from drops.

They're a nice flavour item, and all it's going to do is turn the bits left into more collectors pieces. I'd personally much prefer it if a few drone NPC's, perhaps the few named ones or funky ones like NPC interceptors, did still drop some drone alloys. Enough that there's still a trickle of them in the game.


Also, question to CCP Affinity/Soundwave : For things like the 1/10 DED drone sites which have spawn containers in, will they still contain drone alloys or have those been changed as well?

Greyscale, please introduce mining-bombers, fittable only by supercarriers.

Imagine the hilarity of hotdropping a mining supercarrier.