These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Science & Industry

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

PI in wormholes and mainting the POS's with it?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Ira Infernus
Knights-of-Cydonia
#1 - 2012-04-10 00:21:10 UTC
So I could go around rinsing my scanner trying to find a few wormholes and checking out the PI availability to holers.

I have a few questions regarding maintaining a POS in a wormhole. I am hoping to setup a Large tower in either a C2 or C3 with any luck, although I would like to the capabilities of making the wormhole almost self sustaining...

-What level of PI is available in wormholes? How much does it vary from lowsec and how much does it increase with each level of wormhole?
-How viable is it to have a wormhole running its own POS?, Would it be possible to run multiple towers with the planets in a C2/C3?
-How many C2/C3 planets would have to be harnessed?

I understand that ambiguity in the answers will have to occur, but I am looking for a basis as the idea of this endevaur is still in the early stages of my research.
Kyros Xero
Xuronautics
#2 - 2012-04-10 02:53:12 UTC
I don't believe planet quality changes based on wormhole class.

We don't track the PI precisely, but we have 6-7 planets (generally with Command Center Upgrades IV) dedicated to producing POS fuel components and that provides enough to keep our large tower going. Ice-based fuels still need to be imported of course.

POS Layered Defenses: "Panic" mode and defense-automation arrays
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-04-10 02:58:31 UTC
It seems rather incredible to me that 6 - 7 planetary bodies (as well as an ice field) are required to keep a single player owned space station up and running. I can take well-educated guesses at the game design logic behind this requirement, but it still seems out of proportion somehow.

+++++++ I have never shed a tear for a fellow EVE player until now. Mark “Seleene” Heard's Blog Honoring Sean "Vile Rat" Smith.
Obax Bannon
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-10 09:36:53 UTC
We have 2 large towers in our C3 system
The 7 planets in there give full PI production and can easily sustain the needs of the two towers

As Kyros said tho, ice products still need to be imported into the system
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#5 - 2012-04-11 13:21:00 UTC
The resources levels of planets in wh-space are alot higher than low-sec, the trick would be finding a C2 or C3 system with the right number of planet types to give you resources you're looking for. Depends if you just want to cover the POS fuel types, or find a system that gives you access to extract them all.

You can run as many towers as you can afford to fuel! Importing ice products from empire can be fairly easy, depending on where the wormholes static exit leads.

The real challenge would be finding one thats unoccupied. Sad

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
blueprint toon
lava planet interaction Corporation
#6 - 2012-04-11 19:14:42 UTC
if you find a wh with the recorces to make all pos fuel items i have 4 toons on 2 accounts and make 3.4 billion a month hows that for you?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2012-04-11 22:05:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Ira Infernus wrote:
-What level of PI is available in wormholes? How much does it vary from lowsec and how much does it increase with each level of wormhole?

All w-space is -1.0 sec, the lowest sec possible, and so the PI is the maximum possible.

Ira Infernus wrote:
-How viable is it to have a wormhole running its own POS?, Would it be possible to run multiple towers with the planets in a C2/C3?

Very possible. Been there. Done that. I lived in w-space for over 2.5 years.

Only limit is number of people willing to do PI day in and day out.

Ira Infernus wrote:
-How many C2/C3 planets would have to be harnessed?

You will want several characters making it, unless you like 24 hour cycles. Most people are lazy (like me) or undependable.

Some people wanted to do 13 day cycles, which is only practical for robotics and oxygen.

IMPORTANT:
1. If you don't want to make fuel products, you can easily earn 21m per day per planet, and just buy the fuel you need.
2. W-space PI can produce huge volumes if you export. I was taking a full Charon freighter of P1out of w-space as often as twice a month (factory planets in hisec).

The mix of planets in the system will mostly determine how many planets are required, or if it is even possible.
Gumby Ambraelle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-12 18:49:27 UTC
Ira Infernus wrote:
So I could go around rinsing my scanner trying to find a few wormholes and checking out the PI availability to holers.

I have a few questions regarding maintaining a POS in a wormhole. I am hoping to setup a Large tower in either a C2 or C3 with any luck, although I would like to the capabilities of making the wormhole almost self sustaining...

-What level of PI is available in wormholes? How much does it vary from lowsec and how much does it increase with each level of wormhole?
-How viable is it to have a wormhole running its own POS?, Would it be possible to run multiple towers with the planets in a C2/C3?
-How many C2/C3 planets would have to be harnessed?

I understand that ambiguity in the answers will have to occur, but I am looking for a basis as the idea of this endevaur is still in the early stages of my research.



I live in a C2 and have 3 toons doing PI. I make everything for fuel except the ice stuff and still make approx 80-120M a month in stuff I export out of the hole. Another player in our corp does almost 1B a month with a couple of toons doing PI, and he is not working it real hard...(3 - 4 day cycles on stuff). We own several of the POCO's so we save on the taxes on those planets.

PI in a WH is much better than lowsec as far as production levels.
Multiple towers would not be hard assuming that you have the right mix of planets to make fuel parts
# of planets is up to you based upon the number of toons and what you want to do in addition to making fuel.