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Freighter, lots of buy orders, and about 1 week stock of PI materials bought at cheap cheap. About 100mil/planet/month with lvl4 CC. High volume to(12k units of output/day total). Getting lvl5 CC in a few days, then lvl5 planet consolidation is next.

The bigger problem is having to refill those planets once every day or two, as they only have a hair over 48 hours of stock. And it takes about 73k m3 every 24 hours.

I'm fairly immune to sudden market fluctuations from a fairly large margin per unit and a decent sized stock of materials, not to mention the high volume/day. I can sell my product for a profit at any of the 4 major hubs.

Technically, I could just re-sell the PI, but that would only be about 7mil/day. So I guess that's a net profit of 10mil if I look at it that way.

You have to sell when price goes up, not when price goes down.

take your home system
put your pi there.
for the ease to start PI i would extract raw materials and make it into p1 materials

so you have an extractor leading to a launch pad, which leads to a factory or 2... this is then almost completely autonomous
personally i run 23 hours with PI so every day i log in, update PI everything else is auotmatic until collection day.
with decent skills you can run 3-4 factories 2 launchpads, and the rest extractors... you can store the finished products in 1 launch pad and the raw materials in another
technically (with some wiggle room) this means you won't need to collect the items until its at about 15k ( one and 1 half launch pads) full.
this is per planet
if you have 3 characters thats a lot of stuff to pick up
I estimate your first week you recoup your losses, everything else is gravy.

Extracting and processing to P1 is the best tactic for highsec PI.

Good P1 to produce are water, as already mentioned, as well as electrolytes and most metals too.

Don't bother with trying to produce P2, it is very annoying and hard to do in high sec.



Basically, 5 planets that extra one material each, and process it to P1 by themselves. It pays decently for little effort, and can be made semi-passive with enough autonomy through large storage space.

In that case, start here: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Planetary_Industry

My advice, in addition to the above:

-> Take your time, get used to it, don't go nuts on the first shot. Expect a loss on the first couple planet runs, unless you keep them running at least a couple weeks.

-> Skills to start: Upgrades 2-3 (for sanity), Consolidation 1 and Planetology 3 (again, sanity)
-> Try a simple Oxygen planet (Extractor, Launchpad, Basic Processor), route everything to-from Launchpad. Play around a bit moving the extractor, try longer cycle times (I use 6-day runs). Train Planetology 4, observe how hotspots work.

-> Once you're used to that, try a POS fuel that required two extracting planets. Favorites around here are Enriched Uranium and Mechanical Parts (the latter is wildly popular since this is also used in Robotics, a T2 component and POS fuel). Train Consolidation 2-3, maybe Upgrades 4.

-> By this time you should know if you like PI or not. If yes, the skill set to train is 'All 4s' as a base (approx 2.5 weeks I believe), plus your racial Industrial to 4 (minimum). Again, concentrate on one or two 'core' products - many suggestions already stated in the thread.

-> Further expansion to consider is low-sec. Cloaking 4, Covops 4, racial Industrial 5, Transport Ships 3-4 (Blockade Runner ships), perhaps some light PvP training (evasion tactics). Some of these skills will come in handy if you eventually try general CovOps/Scouting for a PvP fleet, or even during a wardec.

You're welcome to send me an eve-mail with further questions, assistance in some of the nuances of planet prospecting (I currently provide this privately, may expand it to the RP/Inspiracy folks), and perhaps more links (like the google sheet I use to make sure I extract enough for certain numbers of fuel blocks).

Just want to make clear, that cloaked/uncloaked doesnt matter when it comes to launching.

Extracting Ionic Solutions and processing them into Electrolytes makes good isk in high sec too.