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100% INFLATION RATE IS TOO MUCH FOR ME

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Locii
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#81 - 2012-04-11 08:21:55 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:

Whoa, hold on here. What new isk faucet?


DRONE BOUNTIES $$$


And then CCP is decreasing bounties across the board.

*argument negated*



thought the blog said incursions, http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28587 vanguard sites were being reduced by 10%... did i miss the blog saying all bounties were being reduced?
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#82 - 2012-04-11 08:28:21 UTC
Mernar wrote:
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"START MINING?"

ok u mine 100units and get 100mil for that so u can buy SHIP A that costs 100mil
now u mine 100units and get 200mil for that so u can buy SHIP A which costs 200mil now

AWESOME SO MUCH MORE MONEY FOR MINERS!



but hey price is still same, 100 units. so where is inflation?
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#83 - 2012-04-11 08:29:24 UTC
Kattshiro wrote:
Um tough **** then? We gave you ways then you said... that's like work. Sell plex hows that sound?


What the **** do you expect CCP to do exactly? A suggestion might help.


Also: Afford. Please tell me you're below the age of 16.



Hello Mr. Coward NPC Alt, you do realise that CCP, ultimately, has the final reins on the EVE economy - and the OP does indeed touch on a real problem, namely the huge increase in the money supply that was partially but not exclusively caused by Incursions?
Andrew W-K
Doomheim
#84 - 2012-04-11 08:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew W-K
Is it possible with all these changes EVE is in recession?

A decrease in mineral supply will lead to a massive decrease in the whole economy (less manufactoringetc) with wealth harder to create and hyperinflation setting in as there is lots isk being created still (missions etc).
Luis Graca
#85 - 2012-04-11 10:24:40 UTC
Seems like the IMF finally get to jita Sad


Next step ccp increases the trading taxes for more tears
wiskyjack
New Eden Mining Organisation
The Craftsmen
#86 - 2012-04-11 11:27:58 UTC
Dont think it's as sinister as people think. People are panic buying and speculators are sucking up as much ore as they can so they dont get left behind.

It's not like the roid belts are fading and you still getting the same mineral yeald from mining.
Just get a BPO and a mining barge and make the junk your self. And leave the market to implode.

Andrew W-K
Doomheim
#87 - 2012-04-11 11:31:55 UTC
wiskyjack wrote:
Dont think it's as sinister as people think. People are panic buying and speculators are sucking up as much ore as they can so they dont get left behind.

It's not like the roid belts are fading and you still getting the same mineral yeald from mining.
Just get a BPO and a mining barge and make the junk your self. And leave the market to implode.



This is the great mineral crunch of 2012©.

We should party hard.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
#88 - 2012-04-11 11:42:18 UTC
Lisa Rankin wrote:
Mernar wrote:
ok u mine 100units and get 100mil for that so u can buy SHIP A that costs 100mil
now u mine 100units and get 200mil for that so u can buy SHIP A which costs 200mil now

AWESOME SO MUCH MORE MONEY FOR MINERS!


seriously he has a point there


You're both fail.

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wiskyjack
New Eden Mining Organisation
The Craftsmen
#89 - 2012-04-11 11:53:24 UTC
Andrew W-K wrote:
wiskyjack wrote:
Dont think it's as sinister as people think. People are panic buying and speculators are sucking up as much ore as they can so they dont get left behind.

It's not like the roid belts are fading and you still getting the same mineral yeald from mining.
Just get a BPO and a mining barge and make the junk your self. And leave the market to implode.



This is the great mineral crunch of 2012©.

We should party hard.



Absolutely. Blue pills for everyone.


And for and you market trolls put a bit of effort in. There are plenty of items falling in price, use your brain and a bit of intuition and stop spamming drake and 1400mm sales.


TheBlueMonkey
Don't Be a Menace
#90 - 2012-04-11 12:10:06 UTC
Mernar wrote:
PLS CCP DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AS I CANT EFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE


game is a sandbox, CCP shouldn't **** around with the market.
They also shouldn't remove stacks of bots unless they think the game can actually handle it.
Sim Cognito
Obani Gemini Corporation
#91 - 2012-04-11 12:19:36 UTC
Mernar wrote:
PLS CCP DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AS I CANT EFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE


Music to my ears, a true concerto.
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#92 - 2012-04-11 13:30:49 UTC
Mernar wrote:
PLS CCP DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AS I CANT EFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE

We'll see even more inflation since ships and all stuff that's manufactured will now go up.
This is because ccp is removing alloys from drones and ore/minerals will become even more expensive.

Roll
Jessia
Minmatar Research and Trading Corp
#93 - 2012-04-11 14:41:50 UTC
and to all who say its speculation not inflation...

when the crop price goes up by 100% the poor people dont care about whether they starve because of speculation or inflation they just starve...
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#94 - 2012-04-11 14:44:05 UTC
Good thing it's a spaceship video game then.
Troll Bridgington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#95 - 2012-04-11 14:49:58 UTC
ELECT RON PAUL!
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#96 - 2012-04-11 15:50:02 UTC
Jessia wrote:
and to all who say its speculation not inflation...

when the crop price goes up by 100% the poor people dont care about whether they starve because of speculation or inflation they just starve...

Please help me! Each turn around the Monopoly board only pays $200, but with developments on every property my income is no longer substantial enough to stay in the GAME! WAAAAAAAH!

Is that it?

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#97 - 2012-04-11 16:29:21 UTC
Locii wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:

Whoa, hold on here. What new isk faucet?


DRONE BOUNTIES $$$


And then CCP is decreasing bounties across the board.

*argument negated*



thought the blog said incursions, http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28587 vanguard sites were being reduced by 10%... did i miss the blog saying all bounties were being reduced?


Yes you did miss it because it aint in the DEV blogs just mentioned in a interview with CCP Soundwave & Ten Ton Hammer interview that he's prepared to do it in a reactive mode. He said he may do the bounty nerf later in the year but I expect he'll have of move it up if things continue as they are & there is no bubble burst ( if there really is a bubble the jury is out on that )
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Barakach
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-04-11 16:50:19 UTC
Inflation is a long term average, not a short term spike by speculation and meta-gaming.

Also, inflation takes into account all avenues of profit, not just ratting/missioning. If PvE ratters start making less relative money, but miners start making more, such that it evens out, then there is no inflation.

The market is just very volatile right now, which is fun. Same boring market is not fun. It will level out. Now is the time to make money.

Every time someone use to say "minerals are fine" when miners were saying "minerals are too cheap", now the tables have turned and all I hear is QQ.

A recent dev blog during fan fest has show an over all 1%/year inflation since Eve started, with some cycles of deflation.
Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#99 - 2012-04-11 16:54:11 UTC
IN THE LONG RUN:
1) Mission runners are relatively unaffected, as mission running ships are capital assets. New players might have to wait longer before they can buy their level 4 mission running battleship, but once the ship is purchased and fit their only expenditure really is ammunition.

2) As prices increase, smaller and cheaper T1 ships gain a comparative advantage over more expensive large T1 ships or expensive T2 ships. This makes new players more competitive in PvP which can only be a good thing, IMO.

3) Suicide ganking will become more expensive, which will make mining more attractive. This won't stop suicide ganking campaigns which are sponsored by large 0.0 alliances with a strong logistics/industrial backbone (and not to mention technetium moons).

4) Players involved in "material creation" gain a competitive advantage over middle men (such as myself) who buy raw materials and process them into consumer goods. This is because rising prices generally squeeze profit margins. The "material creation" activities which are going to become more competitive are:
1) Mining
2) Moon mining
3) PI P1 production
4) Gas mining
5) Salvaging
6) Sleepers
7) Ratting for faction/officer/complex items
8) LP harvesting
9) Datacore harvesting
10) Archeology/hacking
11) COSMOS missions (lol)

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#100 - 2012-04-11 16:54:53 UTC
Mernar wrote:
ok u mine 100units and get 100mil for that so u can buy SHIP A that costs 100mil
now u mine 100units and get 200mil for that so u can buy SHIP A which costs 200mil now

AWESOME SO MUCH MORE MONEY FOR MINERS!


If you mined for 3 hours to buy a ship before, and you mine for 3 hours to buy the same ship now, what's the problem?

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.