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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#41 - 2012-04-11 06:30:07 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:

I admit death was not the word I was looking for,stagnating maybe.


And then look at them reaching a whole different market with Dust to reinforce their company without altering EVE to be something it is not. Yet also making more aware of the CCP brand through sony's propaganda machine.
Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-04-11 06:31:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dry Martinis
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
I do remember recently reading that CCP is actually doing well money wise and made like 66 mil last year.

Lol! Guess I was all worried about nothing. My apologies.


FTFY.

Yeah, CCP isn't all driving to work in Ferraris like certain other companies. Their business will die without their Ferrari backbone.




No gold watches, no more internet spaceships I guess.

CAPS LOCK: CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#43 - 2012-04-11 06:32:17 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:

I admit death was not the word I was looking for,stagnating maybe.


And then look at them reaching a whole different market with Dust to reinforce their company without altering EVE to be something it is not. Yet also making more aware of the CCP brand through sony's propaganda machine.


Also working on a separate MMO based on a popular tabletop roleplaying game. To combine the sandbox gameplay with vampires and the world of Underworld.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-04-11 06:33:28 UTC
fail to see issue, you warned him, he was still a moron and thought it be fun to take on the universe... personally i learned, i figure many others learned "if he steals he thinks he can win"
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-04-11 06:42:30 UTC
Dry Martinis wrote:

MMO business expert on the boards everyone.

Yes,it was me that posted numbers and what the company made last year.
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:


And then look at them reaching a whole different market with Dust to reinforce their company without altering EVE to be something it is not. Yet also making more aware of the CCP brand through sony's propaganda machine.

True. I had not thought of it that way. I'm wondering if the F2P model of Dust would rake in revenues to keep Eve untouched. Time will tell I guess.

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Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-04-11 06:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Dry Martinis
Jake Warbird wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:

MMO business expert on the boards everyone.

Yes,it was me that posted numbers and what the company made last year.




Sorry that I read and try to actually know about topics before opening my trap?

I can be more like you if you like. Here goes:


I PREDICT THIS GAME WILL END CAUSE MY COUSINS FRIEND BOB HAD A GIRLFRIEND WHOSE BROTHER PLAYED AND HE LOST HIS ISK PAYING TO GET INTO GOOSWARM! HE UNSUBBED AND WHEN A PLAYER UNSUBS A COMPANY IS BANKRUPT!!!

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Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-04-11 06:46:04 UTC
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#48 - 2012-04-11 06:48:32 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.


This is a shining example of why the sandbox needs to die.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-04-11 06:48:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
Dry Martinis wrote:


Sorry that I read and try to actually know about topics before opening my trap?

Sorry I recollected what happened to my friend and didn't cite numbers like the MMO expert I was supposed to be?

e:lol,yep that's exactly what I sounded like! Why are you so mad,bro?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-04-11 06:49:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dry Martinis
Jas Dor wrote:
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.


This is so true, if eve is not around still when I turn 40 (im in my mid twenties) then sandbox PvP simply does not work. Case closed.


Jake Warbird wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:


Sorry that I read and try to actually know about topics before opening my trap?

Sorry I recollected what happened to my friend and didn't cite numbers like the MMO expert I was supposed to be?


Don't be salty. I am sorry about your cousins brother whose sister had a friend in college that knew a kid who got podded and unsubbed from eve. Tell him to come back. I'll toss him some iskies.

Oh yeah, saw your edit? I guess I am mad? According to this thread sociopaths play eve. We don't get angry. P

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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#51 - 2012-04-11 06:51:09 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
Ioci wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
OP please tell us how to grief you out of the game.


I can tell you, trolling me on the forums won't get the job done. Knowing that I bother you that much for no obvious reason on the other hand is just motive for me to stay. I rather like that you find me that threatening, little Goon Jr.

Yeah I thought I knew who you were. Try to keep this account unbanned this time. Lol


None of my accounts have ever been banned, either in game or on the forums. That wasn't a well played speculation. Goon Jr.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#52 - 2012-04-11 06:53:05 UTC
Ioci wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Ioci wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
OP please tell us how to grief you out of the game.


I can tell you, trolling me on the forums won't get the job done. Knowing that I bother you that much for no obvious reason on the other hand is just motive for me to stay. I rather like that you find me that threatening, little Goon Jr.

Yeah I thought I knew who you were. Try to keep this account unbanned this time. Lol


None of my accounts have ever been banned, either in game or on the forums. That wasn't a well played speculation. Goon Jr.


:cripes: Another one of these "Goon Pets" people.

Quote:
Goons don't really do the whole "pet" thing. They really aren't into the whole "padding their space with people they don't like" thing, either.

Goons tend to shoot people they don't like. Hell, Goons tend to shoot people they DO like, for fun. All these people that you refer to as "pets", likely because you think they have no voice or something (idk, really). They are all friends of Goons. They like Goons, and Goons like them.

Goons don't abandon their friends, like certain alliances did with their "pets". If Raiden. or whoever decides to try and take a swipe at an ally, and that ally looks like they might not handle it, Goons will come and help out if asked. Not for any cost, or payment or anything. Just to help out a friend in need.

So you can take your little "pets" business and turn around and go back to whatever corner of space that you call home and enjoy your little ideas on your own time.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#53 - 2012-04-11 06:53:15 UTC
Dry Martinis wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.


This is so true, if eve is not around still when I turn 40 (im in my mid twenties) then sandbox PvP simply does not work. Case closed.


I don't ecpect EVE to die due to griefing. Ten years says that won't happen. It still isn't a rational reasoning for a policy that costs alot of profit for very little return.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-04-11 06:54:30 UTC
Dry Martinis wrote:


Don't be salty. I am sorry about your cousins brother whose sister had a friend in college that knew a kid who got podded and unsubbed from eve. Tell him to come back. I'll toss him some iskies.

Send it to me,ll make sure he gets it when he comes back.

We still friends?

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#55 - 2012-04-11 06:56:13 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.


This is so true, if eve is not around still when I turn 40 (im in my mid twenties) then sandbox PvP simply does not work. Case closed.


I don't ecpect EVE to die due to griefing. Ten years says that won't happen. It still isn't a rational reasoning for a policy that costs alot of profit for very little return.


Maybe the opportunity cost isn't worth it to CCP for selling out on their game?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-04-11 06:56:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Dry Martinis
Ioci wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.


This is so true, if eve is not around still when I turn 40 (im in my mid twenties) then sandbox PvP simply does not work. Case closed.


I don't ecpect EVE to die due to griefing. Ten years says that won't happen. It still isn't a rational reasoning for a policy that costs alot of profit for very little return.


well thanks for a decent response Jas, I guess my point is...

Wouldn't a focus on another group of people possibly cost them others instead that are pulled in due to the gameplay causing them lose the money in any case?

If eve is gonna compete outside of the "niche" then I think most would agree that many of those other games are more enjoyable. But I could be wrong there. If it changed too much, then I would leave for sure. Not that it would matter much if it was just myself. But imagine if there were others as well. It's all hypothetical I guess.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#57 - 2012-04-11 06:56:47 UTC
There are no PVE sandboxes.

Only the EVE way to make a sandbox MMO makes any sense- single-shard, persistent open universe. Like a virtual world.

It's the reason people love this game and stick with it for years after years. 7 years is so long time in human life that you actually change as a person- EVE stays. If you leave after a few months, you probably didn't get in deep enough to "get" the game.



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Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-04-11 07:00:52 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:


Don't be salty. I am sorry about your cousins brother whose sister had a friend in college that knew a kid who got podded and unsubbed from eve. Tell him to come back. I'll toss him some iskies.

Send it to me,ll make sure he gets it when he comes back.

We still friends?


of course my man. I don't take any of this seriously and I like poking the bear sometimes just for the sake of poking him. I hold no malice towards you nor anyone else on the forums.

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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#59 - 2012-04-11 07:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Jas Dor wrote:
Just remember, games with stagnant population numbers and MUDflation tend to experience sudden drops in subscriber based, normally followed by the closing of the game.

EvE could still end up the bright shinning symbol of why sandbox PvP doesn't work.


Lets say somehow, someway, EvE actually died within the next year. Cripes, A completely raw, made it up as they went, single shard sandbox PvP based game could only sustain itself for a decade, total failure...

Doom is still not on store shelves... FPS's don't work.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-04-11 07:02:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Warbird
Dry Martinis wrote:


Wouldn't a focus on another group of people possibly cost them others instead that are pulled in due to the gameplay causing them lose the money in any case?

If eve is gonna compete outside of the "niche" then I think most would agree that many of those other games are more enjoyable. But I could be wrong there. If it changed too much, then I would leave for sure. Not that it would matter much if it was just myself. But imagine if there were others as well. It's all hypothetical I guess.

Good post! I agree...

Hopefully we get more internetspaceships years to come.

Dry Martinis wrote:

of course my man. I don't take any of this seriously and I like poking the bear sometimes just for the sake of poking him. I hold no malice towards you nor anyone else on the forums.

I hear ya. Good bit of headbutting for a while is generally good for the soul I guess.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.