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Amarr Frigate I
Amarr Frigate II
Amarr Frigate III
Amarr Frigate IV
Amarr Cruiser I
Amarr Cruiser II
Amarr Cruiser III
Amarr Cruiser IV
Amarr Battleship I
Amarr Battleship II
Amarr Battleship III
Caldari Frigate III
Caldari Frigate IV
Caldari Cruiser I
Caldari Cruiser II
Caldari Cruiser III
Caldari Cruiser IV
Caldari Battleship I
Caldari Battleship II
Caldari Battleship III
Destroyers II
Destroyers III
Destroyers IV
Destroyers V
Advanced Spaceship Command I
Advanced Spaceship Command II
Advanced Spaceship Command III
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
Missile Bombardment IV
Missile Bombardment V
Target Navigation Prediction IV
Target Navigation Prediction V
Rapid Launch IV
Rapid Launch V
Missile Projection IV
Missile Projection V
Warhead Upgrades I
Warhead Upgrades II
Warhead Upgrades III
Warhead Upgrades IV
Warhead Upgrades V
Guided Missile Precision I
Guided Missile Precision II
Guided Missile Precision III
Guided Missile Precision IV
Heavy Missiles I
Heavy Missiles II
Heavy Missiles III
Cruise Missiles I
Cruise Missiles II
Cruise Missiles III
Cruise Missiles IV
Cruise Missiles V
Cruise Missile Specialization I
Sharpshooter V
Medium Artillery Specialization II
Medium Artillery Specialization III
Medium Artillery Specialization IV
Large Artillery Specialization I
Small Energy Turret I
Small Energy Turret II
Small Energy Turret III
Small Energy Turret IV
Small Energy Turret V
Small Beam Laser Specialization I
Small Beam Laser Specialization II
Small Beam Laser Specialization III
Small Beam Laser Specialization IV
Medium Energy Turret I
Medium Energy Turret II
Medium Energy Turret III
Medium Energy Turret IV
Medium Energy Turret V
Medium Beam Laser Specialization I
Medium Beam Laser Specialization II
Medium Beam Laser Specialization III
Medium Beam Laser Specialization IV
Large Energy Turret I
Large Energy Turret II
Large Energy Turret III
Large Energy Turret IV
Large Energy Turret V
Large Beam Laser Specialization I
Small Hybrid Turret IV
Small Hybrid Turret V
Small Blaster Specialization I
Small Blaster Specialization II
Small Blaster Specialization III
Small Blaster Specialization IV
Medium Hybrid Turret I
Medium Hybrid Turret II
Medium Hybrid Turret III
Medium Hybrid Turret IV
Medium Hybrid Turret V
Medium Blaster Specialization I
Medium Blaster Specialization II
Medium Blaster Specialization III
Medium Blaster Specialization IV
Large Hybrid Turret I
Large Hybrid Turret II
Large Hybrid Turret III
Large Hybrid Turret IV
Large Hybrid Turret V
Large Blaster Specialization I
Small Pulse Laser Specialization I
Small Pulse Laser Specialization II
Small Pulse Laser Specialization III
Small Pulse Laser Specialization IV
Medium Pulse Laser Specialization I
Medium Pulse Laser Specialization II
Medium Pulse Laser Specialization III
Medium Pulse Laser Specialization IV
Large Pulse Laser Specialization I
Small Railgun Specialization I
Small Railgun Specialization II
Small Railgun Specialization III
Small Railgun Specialization IV
Medium Railgun Specialization I
Medium Railgun Specialization II
Medium Railgun Specialization III
Medium Railgun Specialization IV
Large Railgun Specialization I
Controlled Bursts I
Controlled Bursts II
Controlled Bursts III
Controlled Bursts IV
Surgical Strike IV


40 unique skills, 127 skill levels; Total time: 207 days, 14 hours, 37 minutes, 4 seconds

After which i would continue to max out my gunnery, missile, and any desired spaceship command skills, for specialization and level 5. After that back to int / memory for max support and electronic warfare skills. Seem like a good idea? Seem like a bad idea? Should I instead specialize in strictly minmatar and focus on their ships?

Anyone who has experience in this point of character development?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/RaTTuS/ranks
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I've got a better question for you. Do you want to cross-train? This is a game, if you want to be able to fly a ship and it sounds fun, go for it. Best case, you love your new ship, worst case you waste a bit of time taking a detour (which might turn out helping you later on). Personally, I'm cross-trained for all four races for most sub-cap ships (working on the last Cruiser 5 right now), I enjoy the versatility and I don't feel that it has limited me in the game whatsoever. It's all a personal choice though, it's up to you.

I currently fly minmatar, I enjoy my sleipnir and can fly a machariel. But I am sort of just greedily wanting to be able to fly what i want. Maybe instead of autocannons I can pew pew with lasers. Or make a rattlesnake for pve over a mach. But I can alway use a cruise missile typhoon I guess. Or just cross train lasers specifically. Just seeing if there is any terrible reasons not to do it early on. I have level 4 support skills and gunnery as is. So it isn't like I am severely under skilled to pilot any sub capital ship.

To be honest, the only thing I would cross-train into for Caldari would be the Drake. Other than that, I'd just keep training Amarr. Better capitals, better battleships, and ~scorch~.

Thank you for all the advice, I have come to the conclusion that I should first squeeze the most I can out of a machariel and maybe get my light missile skills up for cruiser / battle cruiser pvp. But Alas Amarr is on my list of races to cross train in the near future for nuet boats :D

personally I would recommend getting fitting/support skills maxed out first. They affect all races. then max out your chosen weapons and ships. then start cross training.

Being able to fly every ship in game does you no good if you can not fly any of them effectively. support skills are a must to decently fit any ship. Get your support skills up including the weapon support skills for what ever you like using the most. get these up before even moving into your chosen races battleship. A well fit BC with good support skills can easily take down a poorly fit battleship with bad support skills.

Crosstrain... if you ever want to get into pvp, you'll be better off for it and can fly something other than what you worked towards. It'll be more useful for FCs and more enjoyable when you get tired of doing the same thing.

I did read your OP, but I admit I did not look at your character sheet. After reviewing your character sheet though, what I said still stands. You have a lot of important support skills not yet trained to a decent level.

You said in your OP that you were planing on coming back to your support skills after your +207 days cross training all the ship skills. That would be a mistake. I do agree that once you remap to per/will you might as well train everything before remaping back. However there are several holes in your support skills you should fill before remaping to per/will. They may seem like minor skills but can make a big difference, especially in PVP. The ones that jumped out at me from reviewing your character sheet that you should have to 5 before spending over 6 months cross training are;

Electronics Upgrades
Long Range Targeting
Signature Analysis
Targeting
Shield Management
Shield Upgrades
Tactical Shield Manipulation
Navigation
High Speed Maneuvering
Evasive Maneuvering
Acceleration Control

Not all have to be to 5 but all are well worth getting to 5.

Personally I couldn’t live without my astrometrics skills. But if you don’t know how to scan I guess they are not needed. If you do know how to scan though, you would know how important they are. They are not just for exploration, life in null is much easier if you have them.

Get all drone skills to at least 4 – it doesn’t mater what you fly drones can mean the difference between surviving or getting pawned. T2 Drones become way more effective once the support skills are up. Just being able to use them is not enough. In fact with max drone skills a single tech 2 drone becomes almost 3 times as powerful as the same drone with minimal skills.

Also Get all rigging skills for rigs you actually use to 4 the reduction in the rigging penalties is well worth it.

Then once you remap to per/will you are ready to train right into capital ships if you want before remaping back.

Electronic Warfare I
Nanite Operation I
Sensor Linking I
Weapon Disruption I
Electronic Superiority Rigging I
Astrometric Acquisition I
Electronic Warfare II
Frequency Modulation I
Nanite Operation II
Propulsion Jamming II
Armor Rigging II
Astronautics Rigging II
Drones Rigging II
Energy Weapon Rigging II
Hybrid Weapon Rigging II
Launcher Rigging II
Projectile Weapon Rigging II
Shield Rigging II
Frequency Modulation II
Sensor Linking II
Weapon Disruption II
Electronic Superiority Rigging II
Cloaking II
Astrometric Acquisition II
Electronic Warfare III
Long Distance Jamming I
Long Distance Jamming II
Nanite Operation III
Nanite Interfacing I
Nanite Interfacing II
Target Painting III
Propulsion Jamming III
Armor Rigging III
Astronautics Rigging III
Drones Rigging III
Energy Weapon Rigging III
Hybrid Weapon Rigging III
Launcher Rigging III
Projectile Weapon Rigging III
Shield Rigging III
Frequency Modulation III
Sensor Linking III
Weapon Disruption III
Electronic Superiority Rigging III
Nanite Interfacing III
Long Distance Jamming III
Signature Analysis IV
Astrometric Acquisition III
Cloaking III
Astrometric Rangefinding III
Long Range Targeting IV
EM Shield Compensation IV
Energy Emission Systems IV
Explosive Shield Compensation IV
Kinetic Shield Compensation IV
Thermic Shield Compensation IV
EM Armor Compensation IV
Explosive Armor Compensation IV
Kinetic Armor Compensation IV
Remote Armor Repair Systems IV
Thermic Armor Compensation IV
Electronic Warfare IV
Signal Dispersion I
Signal Dispersion II
Signal Dispersion III
Nanite Operation IV
Astrometrics IV
Astrometric Pinpointing I
Astrometric Pinpointing II
Astrometric Pinpointing III
Salvaging IV
Target Painting IV
Signature Focusing I
Signature Focusing II
Signature Focusing III
Propulsion Jamming IV
Armor Rigging IV
Astronautics Rigging IV
Drones Rigging IV
Energy Weapon Rigging IV
Hybrid Weapon Rigging IV
Launcher Rigging IV
Projectile Weapon Rigging IV
Shield Rigging IV
Frequency Modulation IV
Sensor Linking IV
Signal Suppression I
Signal Suppression II
Signal Suppression III
Weapon Disruption IV
Turret Destabilization I
Turret Destabilization II
Turret Destabilization III
Electronic Superiority Rigging IV
Nanite Interfacing IV
Long Distance Jamming IV
Navigation V
Warp Drive Operation V
Targeting V
Multitasking I
Multitasking II
Multitasking III
Science V
Repair Systems V
Signal Dispersion IV
Signal Suppression IV
Signature Focusing IV
Turret Destabilization IV
Astrometric Acquisition IV
Astrometric Pinpointing IV
Signature Analysis V
Cloaking IV
Astrometric Rangefinding IV
Evasive Maneuvering V
Electronics Upgrades V
Shield Compensation V
Long Range Targeting V
Energy Emission Systems V
Shield Management V
Salvaging V
Propulsion Jamming V


50 unique skills, 121 skill levels 166 days training time.

I am not planning on getting tactical shield any higher until I get a yes or no on whether it effects getting shot through to armor?

Also I am currently perception will power. But this will be my int / mem remap unless i plan to get my mining up which i probably won't.