EVE New Citizens Q&A

Never done this before, so after accepting the mission with the first pilot how do I get the 2nd pilot to the destination of the mission? Also, can I do this with one computer in window mode or is it better to do it with 2 monitors or 2 computers?

Get the basic fleet boosting skills too. They're pretty cheap, level 1 is a fast learn (2 is pretty quick too), and it's then a 'free' boost if you have two people in the same system.

"Two Boxing" is a generic term for running multiple characters.


How well it works is going to depend on you and your equipment. For me ... windows much sucks **** ... that's just the way it is. For people with different equipment they may get different results.

Alt tabbing between the two ... works ok for mining but not so well if there's any shooting going on. I almost lost a Covetor once because I got attacked by some rats and had to alt tab about to much to find the ship under fire ...

My preference - and that's all it is - is for multiple computers first. Each instance of the game has it's very own system and can run in full screen mode as fast as that system can handle it.

Multiple montiors come after that - although - if you want to run multiple monitors - you pretty much need to be in windows mode. So ... I can only do that with one of my systems - as the older ones don't deal with windows so well. You need to be in windows mode because if you have anything going in full screen and you click anywhere else - the full screen one will drop to the task bar. I've also found that having even one instance in windows degrades my performance, even if the other is full screen. That works if you only need to display what is in the other window. If you want to move your mouse back and forth between the windows - both have to be in windowed mode.



If you want to warp the fleet to the mission - the leader has to have access to that link, so he can right click on it and select Warp Fleet. The guys who aren't the leader can't execute the warp fleet function.

What you can do - if someone who can't warp the fleet is in charge of the mission - is to warp them in first - then have the other guy click on their name in the fleet box and select Warp To Member.


There are a number of ways of using these ships.

One is that one guy can be the salvager and the other the combat guy - so the combat guy warps in, kills all the rats, then the salvager guy warps in. Now here - Alt Tabbing would work since you don't need to use both guys at the same time.

The other is for them to both be killing rats. What I do here - is to have the slower ship take the lead - then have the other guy click on him and Maintain Distance. That way, you only have to steer one guy and the other guy(s) will just follow along.

To do that - you want to have weapons with a similar range. I've tried using Thrashers and Catalysts together and it works poorly. The Catalyst has such a locking range advantage that the rats are dead before the Thrasher is in range. Of course here - I am trying to maintain some distance. I could get the Thrasher in range if I let it lead and then close until it could lock on. But that's just an example.

Sometimes ships can support each other making use of their differences. I used to run a Maller/Arbitrator team. I'd send in the Maller first - get all the agro - and then just have the Arbitrator come in and kill all the rats. That stopped working as well when the rats got smarter and turned on the Arbitrator. But ... I still had two ships killing rats.

The big thing that multiple ships comes in handy for - is your large rat populations like Worlds Collide and such as the Recon missions (where you don't actually need to fight the rats ... but then there's all those bounties ...). Here, it's simply a matter of greater fire power killing the rats faster than one ship alone could so.

But - don't get the idea that two ships are going to be twice as good as one - they won't be. There's overhead involved such as ... you've got to lock those targets for both ships and while you're busy assigning targets to one - the other may be sitting idle if he's killed all his rats already.


Lastly ... be preparted for Task Over Load - ON YOUR PART. Just because the computers can run all those ships - doesn't mean you can. Get to involved with one ship - and here's his buddy going to hell in a hand basket. Putting each guy on the other guys Watch Lists helps with that. If they're shields start turning red they're under fire.


I've dual boxed shooters like Planetside - but there - that only worked well if all my guys were in vehicles. I could steer the tank with the drives keyboard and shoot with the gunners mouse - but I couldn't look at both screens at once ...

So - if you do this - you run the chance of having to much to do - and losing a ship - or more - because YOU experienced Task Overload and went to hell in a hand basket.


Thus - this works much better for PVE than PVP. If you want to do this with PVP ... you'd better really know what you're doing.


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Thanks for the insite Toshiro, I kinda envisioned it would be quite difficult if both pilots were fighting at once. Problably should start with some easy stuff first just to get the hang of it.

Virgil, I am running on Windows 7 but what is Aero Peek?

Player 1 big passive shield tank huge DPS, Mach, Maelstrom, Rokh, Raven, Something along the lines of that.
Player 2 Logi ship

Works every time. Makes lvl 4's very lucrative.

Your oneiros would have to be cap recharge fit, so it would have very little tank

You would have to check Eve mission survival to see if Rat groups would agro it or not

Your navy mega would be plate fit in this instance with a bunch of hardeners and damage mods

Oneiros
4 x Large solace bulwark Reconstruction
3 x cap recharger II
1 x Tracking Link II
1 x 1600mm rolled tungsten Plate
1 x Reactor control unit II
1 x Damage control II
2 x Energized adaptive nano membrane II
2 x medium capacitor control circuit I
Cap stable

5 x hobgoblin II's

Navy Megathron
7 x 425mm Rail gun II
1 empty high put what you want, Salvage, tractor, missile launcher etc
2 x Cap recharger II
1 x 100mn AB II
1 x Tracking Computer II
1 x 1600mm tungsten plat
4 x racial hardener
3 x Magnetic field stabilizer II'
1 x Large Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit
2 x Large Capacitor Control Circuit
Cap stable

5 x Heavy armor rep drones

Warp in navy mega, warp in Oneiros shortly after. Pick up Rat group agro from one group with mega, start orbiting. Turn on reps from oneiros. Burn down rats. Rinse and repeat. Put your armor drones on the Oneiros now it too has a tank. Use the oneiros drone bay to kill small frigates if you have too. Thats team work.