Ships & Modules

After spending months preping for this ship I am having doubts about purching it. It was to be my all in one exploring ship. But from all I have read it isn't exactly the best T3 out there right now in any catogory(except a brick I guess). In fact I could probably do just as good with the Ishtar and then maybe start on Cruiser V for a different T3. Also, the investment into this ship including the ship, subs, modules and drones is about 1.3B for what I'm looking for. I guess I'm trying to find out from someone that this ship would be a worthy investment for exploring. If not, which other T3 should I invest in besides the all wonderful Tengu! Nothing against the Tengu just don't like being like everyone else if ya get my meaning.

And yes in EVE there doesn't seem to be a specific role that each race could simultaneously specialize in. For example, like the thing you just mentioned, in EVE the Tengu is somewhat the almighty of PVE that everyone flies when it comes to missioning or exploring. For the PVP there's the Drake and Hurricane that literally EVERYONE flies, etc ... There's not much diversity in EVE when it comes to ship usage really, there is always that particular ship hull for a particular purpose that everyone uses.

Eh, he says he can access the Ishtar, that's good for everything but sleepers, and it can probably take C1/C2 sleepers too using a sent/snipe fit and some warping about. Don't know about C3, I've not really ever done C3 sites solo.

Well, all that assumes he has good scanning skills and doesn't really need the ship bonuses, but you see what I'm saying here.

Proteus is a great ship, and actually kinda fun in missions. It's much better suited to PVP of course, but I suppose if you want you could probably use it for exploration. As Manar pointed out it's a great heavy tackle for BS gangs and also works well in AHAC fleets due to the expanded scram range and ability to easily dual prop.

I'm afraid it doesn't work too well in C3s. I cleared ladar sites from the small fry with a sentry Ish yesterday, but even with Exile and links (not maxed) I was pushing it. It's very difficult to patch the uneven resist profile, and when you are solo, the sleepers will try to kill the drones. And succeed, too.

Hashmallum you are correct, all T3s will perform adequately in k-space PVE. This was however a direct comparison between Proteus and two of the best all-round explorers.

EVE, a very number-focused game, is just prone to min/max thinking, and people always tend to aim for the absolute perfection and chase the best isk/hour. If you are not overly worried about that, you will have perfect fun flying the ships you love. Often flying sub-optimal ships can even be more fun :)

Wormholes, however differ in nature. They combine relatively high incoming dps with semi-intelligent rats that can hurt from range and also wish to stay at range, and will web, neut and scram the ships that they can grab. Tengu has great damage projection at long range, allowing it to stay away from the sleepers. Proteus, like the other T3s, can tank very well, but suffer from short effective weapon range. Sentry drones have great applied dps at range, but you can't drop and leave them unattended like you can in k-space sites, sleeper frigates actually realize that they are dangerous and will shoot them.

That said, I will certainly test how it performs in C3s. So far I haven't found a feasible, efficient Gallente subcap for soloing anomalies there, but I'm not one to give up easily- still the Prot and command ships left to try

Actually now when I think about it, I haven't yet experimented with dual-rep Domi or Mega and their navy versions either :)

Yes sir :)

I'm max skilled for a Talos and wear a tracking implant, and even on that tracking-bonused hull with two TE IIs, large rails just don't hit anything. Even if they would land the occasional lucky shot, they don't really do much damage.

Blaster Talos kills ladar site sleepers btw :D Got to keep awake at the wheel, but it hits and vaporizes them!

Medium rails are just as bad to hit, but merely tickle opponents. I prefer to pretend that medium railguns don't exist at all tbh.

I do plan on getting into a Talos eventually, training up my basic T2 fittings before moving on to things with large guns. I like the perceived performance of the Talos in solo/small gang pvp from those few commentary videos I've seen online of Kovorix and Kil2. Inspiring stuff.

40km point is pretty damn useful

I've never flown one but I've seen a cloaky proteus or two do very well in null sec.