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Gregor Palter
#21 - 2011-09-27 11:47:28 UTC
I like how people are willing to assume that what we know about light speed is possibly wrong, but somehow still use theories based on exactly that (ie, time travel and similar nonsense) and then make statements on it.

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

CCP Paradox
#22 - 2011-09-27 11:51:34 UTC
'Sup guys.

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Signal11th
#23 - 2011-09-27 11:53:19 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
'Sup guys.




You should have locked it Paradox would have been a classic end to a lame thread

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CCP Paradox
#24 - 2011-09-27 11:57:37 UTC
Yes, this really should reside in Out of Pod. :)

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Space Magician
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#25 - 2011-09-27 12:16:18 UTC
Happy to oblige. Smile

And a semi-ontopic joke:

"We don't allow faster than light neutrinos in here" said the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#26 - 2011-09-27 16:54:03 UTC
chuck norris made holidays near cern. thats why the little things moved faster.

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Karma
Vortex Incorporated
#27 - 2011-09-27 19:22:55 UTC
From my own perspective, but sadly not experience...

the speed of light and time travel has
as much as to do with each other as
the speed of sound and time travel.

Not a haiku, sadly.
I would gladly be proved wrong, though.

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buee
New Armitage Company
#28 - 2011-09-27 20:07:04 UTC
I feel that mathematical reasoning cannot adequately describe the Universe, we try to define concepts with absolutes because we lack the mental capacity to understand the universe. So when something defies conventional logic, or mathematical reasoning, it is deemed impossible and therefore discarded.

Time as we know it is completely dependent on our perception. Time is not constant, it can slow and quicken its pace, and nobody can say for certain why this happens. So for you, or anyone else to say that time travel is absolutely impossible because the numbers just don’t add up is complete nonsense, the talk of someone without imagination or an open mind. Both things absolutely required for a scientist. A scientist said this, a scientist said that, one or both could be wrong – and probably are. Throughout history, the most brilliant minds have been proven wrong by later generations. We thought the world was flat, now we know it to be round. So it stands to reason that our understanding of time is infantile at best.

This thread was never to state absolutes; to say that time travel for sure must be possible because things may be able to travel faster than light is fallacy, and was never my intention. It is pure speculation, entertainment of intellectual thought. If your mind simply cannot comprehend that some things are incomprehensible, then just don’t post at all. You are far too shallow.

Just have fun and post something interesting, if you can't, steer clear.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2011-09-28 04:11:02 UTC
buee wrote:
I'm sure that the vast majority of you would be thrilled if these findings were replicated, as it would bring time travel from science-fiction to science-plausable.


Erm.. how do you figure that?

Since there are apparently so many of these particles bombarding everything everywhere, if time travel via these particles were possible, it would be a common thing happening.

But then you have the theory that time is an abstract measuring tool, to map objects as they move. If that is the case, then there is no time at all.

Going forward in time is easy in theory; stop all activity within a certain field until an outside source cancels it (how could an internal source stop time travel?)

In regards to these electron-like particles... it sure raises a LOT of questions though! How are they made? How are they propelled? Could they cause gravity? Does this add more pieces to the 'String Theory' argument? etc etc etc.

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Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-09-28 14:54:18 UTC
Headerman wrote:

Going forward in time is easy in theory; stop all activity within a certain field until an outside source cancels it (how could an internal source stop time travel?)

Too bad this would require producing a temperature of absolute zero, which is impossible so long as you exist in this universe due to the fact that force fields extend infinitely.
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Doomheim
#31 - 2011-09-29 12:22:35 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
"... fired a neutrino beam 454 miles (730 kilometers) underground from Geneva to Italy.
They found it traveled 60 nanoseconds faster than light. That's sixty billionth of a second, a time no human brain could register."

Diameter of earth is 12,745km, so 12,745 / 730 = 17.5 * 60 nanoseconds = 1,047.5 nanoseconds, giving you a microsecond time advantage.

Hrmmm, what to do with a millionth of a second time advantage... I'm not even sure you could place a trade in market B based on the pre-knowledge of market A, due to the time needed to transmit the neutrinos from market A, detect them at market B, and then process the information to create a trade in market B in order to create a meaningful paradox.

In order to get a one second time advantage, you would need to place a neutrino detector about 12.2 billion km away. The distance from Earth to Pluto varies between 4.4 to 7.4 billion km. The Voyager I spacecraft reached 14 billion km back in 2005. (It took Voyager I 10,000 days (or 27 years) to reach that distance.)

Ah never mind.




So what you're saying is that if I sent myself a text message via a star in Abell 1835 IR1916 warning myself that I shouldn't text and drive that I could prevent the accident I had while texting myself that very same message while driving?

But then that would mean we would have had to already been there to place the transmission equipment in order to take advantage of this little quirk of nature. Isn't that basically what is stated in the theory of the Einstein Rosen bridge?



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Mudkest
Contagious Goat Labs
#32 - 2011-09-30 16:07:32 UTC
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Alu Utukku
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-10-02 19:57:34 UTC
Morganta wrote:



anyhow....

Since time travel can only go backward (and theoretically only as far back as the invention of the time machine)

damn near any time travel would create a slew of issues, and for the record I thought a paradox is when you meet yourself (a physical impossibility)

My theory is more simple.

I believe that Gravity waves can bend and distort time, much like the concept of folding space for instant travel over long distances. At certain points in time the gravity waves distort time so much it virtually brings a bit of the past forward to the present, A shadow if you will of the past.

Since time travel forward is impossible (so far) this is sort of like a one way mirror, where you can see the past, but the past cant see you.

This also explains the appearance of ghosts



using those same gravity waves suggested (and more recently fleshed out here : http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27187/ as a potential substitution for dark matter theory on universal expansion) in considering faster than light circumstances, i've long thought the physical analogue would be more like an object moving through water creating a pressure wave in advance of the object itself through the medium. the larger the object, the larger the pressure wave and the more in advance of the object it would be.

practical application: the spitball aimed at your head would probably create so little a ripple, that you'd still get hit. the bullet fired at you, becomes potentially dodgeable under the right circumstances and apparatus.

/just an early sunday musing.
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