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Raising Money for the EVE We Deserve

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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#21 - 2012-04-10 05:35:24 UTC
You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-04-10 05:40:05 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.

You've missed the point.
Panacani
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-04-10 05:54:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Panacani
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.

I don't pretend to study ccp financial reports, but I understood plex is just a deferred sub. Unless of course your saying buy plex then promptly destroy it. Regardless, without the ability to direct where your donation goes, your just buying a steak dinner for hilmar.
Panacani
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-04-10 06:02:39 UTC
New music tracks please. And not even subject to diminishing roi.
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-04-10 08:05:36 UTC
Kickstarter is for indie developers, stop promoting its use by large companies.


I've even heard ******** propositions to donate money to Activision Blizzard and EA, what a ******* ******** idea. People buy into all their consumer ripfest **** and want even to donate their money on top
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
#26 - 2012-04-10 08:10:07 UTC
Ya we should as soon as ccp stops spending our sub money on WiS, Dust 514, and WoD.
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-04-10 08:52:29 UTC
I'd rather donate money to see stuff fixed or improved in game, like corp-hangar ACL to name one, than see it wasted in eye/ear-candy stuff like tessalation.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
#28 - 2012-04-10 08:55:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Natassia Krasnoo
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:
[quote=Panacani]I've emailed both CCP and Kickstarter to see if their terms would permit this sort of 3rd party fundraising.. in the meantime, if people have ideas for possible campaign subjects (something specific that donations would be applied to) please share them here.


A feature length movie is long overdue for EVE. The recent trailers using the CG characters are pretty good. I'd love to see them take that tech and do a movie or even a short 30 min per episode Web Series or TV series like SW: The Clone Wars(only not as bad). Live actors would most likely kill any sense of connection the player base has and would probably end in tears. I think the animated route would be the way to go and maybe less expensive(I'm not really sure how much production of those short trailers costs though).

Start at the beginning with the wars between the empires and the Jovians role in bringing the Capsule technology to New Eden and go from there...through the battles that solidified the empires and into the present time. Develop characters we know and make new ones we don't. There are countless possibilities as is evident by the fan fiction that has already been done and the openness of the EVE Universe.

CCP has an astounding Intellectual Property that is very under utilized or has yet to be tapped. I seriously doubt we could raise the funding they would need to create a full length animated movie, let alone convince them to take that kind of risk on an investment, but it would be nice to see. Maybe a short Web Series or TV show would be a step in the right direction and if popular enough could spawn the feature length film later. I really like the recent trailers and would love to see much more done with that tech. I'd throw money their way for that. Hell they could do a deal with VALVE or APPLE to distribute it through STEAM or iTUNES for a small price and I'd still buy it. If you agree let it be known.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#29 - 2012-04-10 13:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Meryl SinGarda
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.

You've missed the point.


Nope, buy PLEX. /thread.


Panacani wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.

I don't pretend to study ccp financial reports, but I understood plex is just a deferred sub. Unless of course your saying buy plex then promptly destroy it. Regardless, without the ability to direct where your donation goes, your just buying a steak dinner for hilmar.


PLEX.

/thread.

edit: Also, you're*
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-04-10 15:10:28 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:


Nope, buy PLEX. /thread.

No. Throwing money at a company is different from directing money at a specific goal.

Also, http://archiwum.polygamia.pl/files/CCP_registration_2.pdf
Learn something. Thanks, bye.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-04-10 15:12:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kattshiro
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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-04-10 15:14:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kattshiro
Kattshiro wrote:
[quote=Daneirkus Auralex]As always on the EVE forums, an impressive demonstration of logic, reading comprehension and constructive discourse. Let's simplify the question:

If donating 5 of your dollars meant that in a few months we'd see a new, beautifully rendered, feature-length "Clear Skies 4," would you donate it?


No.

Also companies dont work on the basis of "If I give you this... You must work only on this! With this money.."

Perhaps you should start it up and do it yourself?

Edit: I also don't see why every idea/game/book needs to have a movie now? Isn't that the purpose of a game? To live out the entertainment rather than bearing witness to it? Like the ME movie. It gives you options your Shepard and mine don't make all the same decisions. Therefore one of us will be disappointed. I can almost guarantee Hollywood will choose the "nice" Shepherd with a semi "haunted past"
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#33 - 2012-04-10 15:15:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Meryl SinGarda
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:
Meryl SinGarda wrote:


Nope, buy PLEX. /thread.

No. Throwing money at a company is different from directing money at a specific goal.

Also, http://archiwum.polygamia.pl/files/CCP_registration_2.pdf
Learn something. Thanks, bye.



PLEX.

Also, your thread is stupid.

I really don't think you should be taking cues from a bunch of entitled derpers who hid behind a children's charity in an attempt to not look so completely moronic.

Just because you start a cause to get the developers to go a certain way, doesn't mean they're going to do it.

TL;DR BUY PLEX
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-04-10 15:16:33 UTC
Daneirkus Auralex wrote:
a few months


keep dreaming, no amount of money would make that possible by even 1000 people working on it. *rolls eyes*

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Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#35 - 2012-04-10 15:17:03 UTC
Another great thread from a TEST genius who is labouring under the impression that doubling the money that we give to CCP will automatically double the output quantity that they produce. Brilliant.
Screenlag
Armaggedon Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
#36 - 2012-04-10 15:25:03 UTC
I'd buy CCP shares. Limit them to a set number per active accounts, we wouldn't want harbingers of failure to seize this opportunity to commandeer CCP (I'm looking at you EA). And even then, you'll always run the risk of CCP being bought by larger companies if people sold their shares.

CCP better keep 51% of the shares in the corp wallet
Daneirkus Auralex
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-04-10 15:54:58 UTC
Unfortunately CCPs shares aren't publicly traded, and even if they were, you'd really need a substantial amount of them to hold any sort of swaying power. But my post isn't about swaying CCP to do something I want them to.

My post is about helping CCP create things which there's a market for. Whether the expected troglodytes on here agree or not, there are MANY people, players and non-players alike, who would love to see a feature length CGI film, among other things. They would love to be able to add to EVE's story and make an impact. This is a company which holds monthly surveys, who's employees shoot players on their off time, and which asks its convention audience whether or not they should go forward with a feature. If effective player-driven financing is possible anywhere, its here.

The statement isn't' "Here's 100k, CCP, now go buff titans with it." The statement would be "Hey, we all like EVE so much that we collected 100k for you to produce the feature length film you wanted to make, but didn't have the resources for." I'm really beginning to question the average level of reading comprehension on these forums.

Though the trolls find it all to easy to half-read a post and provide a snark, adolescent objection, they'd probably be among the first to grab their Doritos 'n' sour cream sammiches, waddle over to YouTube, and scratch their neckbeards critically through a 2 hour version of the cinematic trailer. Dont forget to wipe the dip from your shirt in between commenting on how much it sucks.

Gorki Andropov wrote:
Nvm, I don't normally read before poasting Lol

You're a pubbie, get out.
Alec Freeman
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-04-10 16:05:47 UTC
I wonder how much money we would have too throw at CCP for them to nullify all Sony contracts and release DUST for the PC. OP might be on to something.
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-04-10 16:08:21 UTC
Quote:

The statement isn't' "Here's 100k, CCP, now go buff titans with it." The statement would be "Hey, we all like EVE so much that we collected 100k for you to produce the feature length film you wanted to make, but didn't have the resources for." I'm really beginning to question the average level of reading comprehension on these forums.



Remember when others don't understand the point you're making it must be due to everyone else being dumb, and never an issue of conveyance on the authors part... Roll

Or perhaps people just dont care to see CCP produce an eve movie or whatever else you're driving at. Don't feel bad well all have idea's that no one else likes. Once again why have them do it? Make your own kick starter get legal permission from CCP and go at it. Why would you ask a video game producer to get into the movie market? Like people asking netflix to make hardware. Perhaps they just dont want to do it?

So have at it start your own eve movie.
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
#40 - 2012-04-10 16:48:04 UTC
I like Tolkien fiction.

Would I give money so Peter Jackson can direct "The Silmarilion" after Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit?
No. Peter knows how to raise funds when/if needed better than I do.

Would I make a small contribution to fan projects like:

http://www.thehuntforgollum.com
http://www.bornofhope.com

Yes, I would. And in some cases I did

Same goes for CCP & Clear Skies

I think there are a lot of people out there that are very talented and have very good ideas for projects. (Like your EVE movie. All they need is CCPs agreement/license to use their intellectual property.)

And a bad idea to make CCP's development work for the game based on "Loooksie! We got 50K for developing XYZ! Lets get to it!"

Also highly unlikely (I hope...)...

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