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Bots seem to be slowly creeping back
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1 - 2012-04-10 08:51:32 UTC
Tri Vetra
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-10 08:53:21 UTC
no

freedom to bots
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#3 - 2012-04-10 09:23:03 UTC
I saw some bots but then I realised I was looking at my own ships mining in highsec. How did that happen? I was just minding my own business flying around and then BAM, next thing I know I'm sitting in an exhumer and mining veldspar.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-04-10 09:24:52 UTC
non judgement wrote:
I saw some bots but then I realised I was looking at my own ships mining in highsec. How did that happen? I was just minding my own business flying around and then BAM, next thing I know I'm sitting in an exhumer and mining veldspar.

You got exhumered?

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non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#5 - 2012-04-10 09:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
Jake Warbird wrote:
non judgement wrote:
I saw some bots but then I realised I was looking at my own ships mining in highsec. How did that happen? I was just minding my own business flying around and then BAM, next thing I know I'm sitting in an exhumer and mining veldspar.

You got exhumered?

I'm afraid so. At least it wasn't a Mackinaw. I would have had a heart attack if I suddenly found myself mining ice.

Edit: What I mean to say is that it's a bit silly to order CCP to do something about bots creeping back. Why would they stop doing something about bots? This thread is completely silly right from the start.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-10 09:49:25 UTC
I can understand hating 3PO but you must leave R2D2 alone, he's pretty handy with that mutlitool thingy he uses.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#7 - 2012-04-10 09:49:27 UTC
non judgement wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
non judgement wrote:
I saw some bots but then I realised I was looking at my own ships mining in highsec. How did that happen? I was just minding my own business flying around and then BAM, next thing I know I'm sitting in an exhumer and mining veldspar.

You got exhumered?

I'm afraid so. At least it wasn't a Mackinaw. I would have had a heart attack if I suddenly found myself mining ice.

Edit: What I mean to say is that it's a bit silly to order CCP to do something about bots creeping back. Why would they stop doing something about bots? This thread is completely silly right from the start.


Hard to have heart attacks when you are in a block of ice

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2012-04-10 12:15:34 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


Hard to have heart attacks when you are in a block of ice


It happens even to the most cold-hearted.
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-10 12:24:19 UTC
I have no issue with there being 0 bots in the game as long as the mining toolbags can get mineral prices back down so a Tier 3 BS doesn't cost 250mil ¬¬
gfldex
#10 - 2012-04-10 12:27:36 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I have no issue with there being 0 bots in the game as long as the mining toolbags can get mineral prices back down so a Tier 3 BS doesn't cost 250mil ¬¬


Take the time it takes to get the mins to build a BS. Compare that time with ISK one can make from shooting NPCs. That will be the price for a BS. With current pay from lvl4s we are looking at 300+MISK for a tier 3 BS.

You may want to get yourself some frigate BPOs.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction
Gears Confederation
#11 - 2012-04-10 12:30:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr Prometheus
We are trying to get as much minerals as we can, but some certain other pilots are preventing/disturbing us to do so. ;)

Dude, where is my Quafe Megathron?
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-10 12:38:56 UTC
gfldex wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I have no issue with there being 0 bots in the game as long as the mining toolbags can get mineral prices back down so a Tier 3 BS doesn't cost 250mil ¬¬


Take the time it takes to get the mins to build a BS. Compare that time with ISK one can make from shooting NPCs. That will be the price for a BS. With current pay from lvl4s we are looking at 300+MISK for a tier 3 BS.

You may want to get yourself some frigate BPOs.


I have 0 interest in building them, getting blown up in them is way more fun.
The point at which I'm losing 300mil each time I explode is going to be a depressing day tbh.

This is why I fail to see the issue with bots.

Even those that mine are doing something else while they mine. It's this whole "I can do something else while playing a game" that I really don't get, doesn't sound like it's actually much fun at all.
Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-04-10 12:45:57 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:


Even those that mine are doing something else while they mine. It's this whole "I can do something else while playing a game" that I really don't get, doesn't sound like it's actually much fun at all.

A captcha at the end of each mining cycle will keep those pesky miners alert!
BellaDonna Nyghtshade
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-04-10 12:49:34 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:


Even those that mine are doing something else while they mine. It's this whole "I can do something else while playing a game" that I really don't get, doesn't sound like it's actually much fun at all.


So, just because you can't see their enjoyment means that their way of play should be penalized by having their earning potential ass-raped by autonomons?

Just so you can enjoy "lower prices"?

What an ass hat.
Victor Twenty
The Scorpion Brothers
#15 - 2012-04-10 13:15:32 UTC
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
gfldex wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I have no issue with there being 0 bots in the game as long as the mining toolbags can get mineral prices back down so a Tier 3 BS doesn't cost 250mil ¬¬


Take the time it takes to get the mins to build a BS. Compare that time with ISK one can make from shooting NPCs. That will be the price for a BS. With current pay from lvl4s we are looking at 300+MISK for a tier 3 BS.

You may want to get yourself some frigate BPOs.


I have 0 interest in building them, getting blown up in them is way more fun.
The point at which I'm losing 300mil each time I explode is going to be a depressing day tbh.

This is why I fail to see the issue with bots.

Even those that mine are doing something else while they mine. It's this whole "I can do something else while playing a game" that I really don't get, doesn't sound like it's actually much fun at all.



What you fail to realize is your time spent in game is a factor to how well you do in the game, why should everyone else spend countless hours mining or missioning to fund their enjoyment when you can just use a bot to get your isk and spend your actual play time having fun, that totally seems far to me. If you want isk for no effort buy a plex if you cant afford it, fly less expensive ships, if you dont want to fly less expensive ships find another game to play.

Death to all bots!!!

Vic20
Vain Eldritch
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-04-10 13:31:52 UTC
Dr Prometheus wrote:
We are trying to get as much minerals as we can, but some certain other pilots are preventing/disturbing us to do so. ;)


The swine.

Androgynous Caldari Cross-dresser
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2012-04-10 13:33:39 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Please fix it.


Well, with the wealth of correlating detail you have provided, that should be pretty easy.

Sreegs, I take it you've already finished this easy task, right?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2012-04-10 13:37:00 UTC
gfldex wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I have no issue with there being 0 bots in the game as long as the mining toolbags can get mineral prices back down so a Tier 3 BS doesn't cost 250mil ¬¬


Take the time it takes to get the mins to build a BS. Compare that time with ISK one can make from shooting NPCs. That will be the price for a BS. With current pay from lvl4s we are looking at 300+MISK for a tier 3 BS.

You may want to get yourself some frigate BPOs.


That genuinely sounds pretty good to me. When ship cost is actually based on the player effort required to build one (x hours of effort to build one = x hours of effort to pay for it), then we'll see a lot more diversity rather than settling on a few standard "best" ships because hull costs are almost irrelevent.

I for one would dearly love to see T1 cruisers and frigates become relevent again.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-04-10 13:54:22 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
gfldex wrote:
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
I have no issue with there being 0 bots in the game as long as the mining toolbags can get mineral prices back down so a Tier 3 BS doesn't cost 250mil ¬¬


Take the time it takes to get the mins to build a BS. Compare that time with ISK one can make from shooting NPCs. That will be the price for a BS. With current pay from lvl4s we are looking at 300+MISK for a tier 3 BS.

You may want to get yourself some frigate BPOs.


That genuinely sounds pretty good to me. When ship cost is actually based on the player effort required to build one (x hours of effort to build one = x hours of effort to pay for it), then we'll see a lot more diversity rather than settling on a few standard "best" ships because hull costs are almost irrelevent.

I for one would dearly love to see T1 cruisers and frigates become relevent again.


They never stopped being relevant...

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
#20 - 2012-04-10 14:14:12 UTC
non judgement wrote:


Edit: What I mean to say is that it's a bit silly to order CCP to do something about bots creeping back. Why would they stop doing something about bots? This thread is completely silly right from the start.


You obviously aren't really aware of CCP's track record with botting.

Mass banning wave, lots of talking about how great they are, how great their banning methods are, promises of continual bot banning, They'll promise it won't be like last time, where they got one massive bot wave off and then disappeared.

Then nothing. Lots and lots of nothing
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