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Thank you Eve community. I have not bit the dust.
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Chimz Domsathanas
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-04-10 02:28:25 UTC
I logged on today to see my last post has been quite active.
I took to the forums to vent on what I felt was extremely poor mission scaling. I still feel this way to a degree (about mission scaling) but I now realize I approached this game all wrong.

I have been stubborn and resistant to ask for help. I asked a few times in Rookie chat but got no helpful advice. To be fair though. I have used the Rookie channel often and found it helpful.

Thank you to those who offered ships or isk. I'm still to stubborn to accept your generous offers but I sincerely thank you.
Thank you to all those who have made helpful posts. I have checked every link and am using them frequently. They are very helpful links.

Thank you Argaral, Ollienorth, Svodola, drdxie, drew, Turelus, dreadeye , Disco and any others who offered helpful advice. I have started fresh, with a new approach. Thank you for the advice. If I have any more questions I ll make sure to ask instead blowing another gasket, lol.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-10 08:16:49 UTC
Good to hear you've decided to give it another try.

I looked through your other post and yeah, there were some very good helpful replies as well as typical troll replies from unknown characters, probably alts that were created to pad the CSM vote.

Anyway, another good source of available info is the Evelopedia. Rookie chat, in my opinion, is more of a hassle than helpful. You'd probably be better off asking questions in your NPC Corporation chat channel. Also don't be in a rush to use higher level agents. You may have the standings for access but your skills, ship fit or tactics may be lacking. There's no shame in dropping back down in agent level for a while and do a bit more skill training.

Good luck to you.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-04-10 08:26:49 UTC
Chimz Domsathanas wrote:
I logged on today to see my last post has been quite active.
I took to the forums to vent on what I felt was extremely poor mission scaling. I still feel this way to a degree (about mission scaling) but I now realize I approached this game all wrong.

I have been stubborn and resistant to ask for help. I asked a few times in Rookie chat but got no helpful advice. To be fair though. I have used the Rookie channel often and found it helpful.

Thank you to those who offered ships or isk. I'm still to stubborn to accept your generous offers but I sincerely thank you.
Thank you to all those who have made helpful posts. I have checked every link and am using them frequently. They are very helpful links.

Thank you Argaral, Ollienorth, Svodola, drdxie, drew, Turelus, dreadeye , Disco and any others who offered helpful advice. I have started fresh, with a new approach. Thank you for the advice. If I have any more questions I ll make sure to ask instead blowing another gasket, lol.


Glad to hear it!

I'm doing level 2 missions at the moment for Caldari Navy in my Toblerone of Death. so If you want to fleet up and hang out, grind the iskies and status I'll be around.

Fly safe o7
Eladanus
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-04-10 08:41:39 UTC
Good to see youre giving it another go!

Stick with it is all I can say. Every MMO has its grind, and youd be hard pushed to find someone who really enjoys the struggles that you go through as a dirt poor noob in this game.

If you need help just keep asking until you get it is my only advice.

o/
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#5 - 2012-04-10 12:31:02 UTC
I put this in your first post.

Ever think that maybe we treat new players this way because it is much easier for them than it was for us?

Thay have continually made it more accessible for new players.
- Elimination of learning skills (shaves a month off skill training)
- Cerebral Implant (speeds up skill training)
- More Skill Points at the start (i had less than 90k skill points when i started)
- Stop being a pansy.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-10 12:40:37 UTC
Glad to see you went with Option 2) fella.

If you do have any questions and I'm online, just mail me or something

I lied :o
St1ngerella
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-10 14:56:13 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
I put this in your first post.

Ever think that maybe we treat new players this way because it is much easier for them than it was for us?

Thay have continually made it more accessible for new players.
- Elimination of learning skills (shaves a month off skill training)
- Cerebral Implant (speeds up skill training)
- More Skill Points at the start (i had less than 90k skill points when i started)
- Stop being a pansy.


Ignore the bittervet IMO.
Disco Knightly
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-10 15:45:46 UTC
Glad to hear you've decided to stay. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#9 - 2012-04-10 18:47:25 UTC
Glad to hear you're staying with the game.
If you ever have questions feel free to ask me in game if I'm online, as long as I am not in a PVP fleet I don't mind chatting.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-10 18:52:21 UTC
Glad to hear it!

If you're ever looking for a home we've always got a spot for you in our alliance.

Svodola.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#11 - 2012-04-10 19:11:04 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
You'd probably be better off asking questions in your NPC Corporation chat channel.


^^ This.

I want to highlight it because I see you're in Hedion U. My other character started there, too, and I learned a lot talking to a (mostly) retired pirate in Corp chat. He was friendly and helpful.

Good luck, and fly safe.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!
De Guantanamo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-10 20:06:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire
Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-04-11 00:20:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dry Martinis
Ildryn wrote:
I put this in your first post.

Ever think that maybe we treat new players this way because it is much easier for them than it was for us?

Thay have continually made it more accessible for new players.
- Elimination of learning skills (shaves a month off skill training)
- Cerebral Implant (speeds up skill training)
- More Skill Points at the start (i had less than 90k skill points when i started)
- Stop being a pansy.



Haha, mean, but true. Now time to hunt the fella down and salvage his epic lootz!

not really btw, if ppl keep scaring new players off, then they won't have eve to play much longer.

CAPS LOCK: CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-04-11 03:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
Dry Martinis wrote:
if ppl keep scaring new players off, then they won't have eve to play much longer.


as long as there are paranoid, sadistic nerds with accounting talents, there will always be EVE online.

edit: to the OP: EVE is rougher than your average mmo. there are dangers to your assets and your mental health and many people will try to push you over and kick you while you're down. in my opinion that's the beauty of it though. having something to lose makes the game exciting like in the old days where super mario had only three lives and then it was game over.
if you want to last, you should read up on everything and anything. take your time, spend a few hours a day and just LEARN stuff. there are vast amounts of knowledge that will make the game easier for you, like how far CONCORD protection goes, how to move around safely in lowsec, what opportunities there are to make money other than shooting things and so on.

here is a little story to encourage you: just the other day i made my first kill in pvp. i was sitting in a 1.5 billion ISK tengu in a wormhole that i thought was empty. suddenly there was another small ship on my overview, which instantly locked and warp scrambled me. had i not read up on what to do, i would have lost my tengu as well as my implants. as it is, i did the exact right things which in this case were:
- align to my previously placed safe spot
- lock and attack the ship that had me warp scrambled
- mash the warp button
because i had read up on missile mechanics, my ship was set up to deal enough damage to frigates so that i just barely managed to shoot down the aggressor in time. while he was exploding and my ship was initiating warp, three or four other pirates arrived but could not lock and scramble me fast enough. i then warped closer to the wormhole exit and used dscan to check for unpleasant surprises and then quickly jumped out into hisec after leaving a few select words in local chat. this experience was more exciting than most things i experienced in my over 15 years of gaming and that is what makes eve so awesome.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#15 - 2012-04-11 04:03:56 UTC
Ildryn wrote:
I put this in your first post.

Ever think that maybe we treat new players this way because it is much easier for them than it was for us?

Thay have continually made it more accessible for new players.
- Elimination of learning skills (shaves a month off skill training)
- Cerebral Implant (speeds up skill training)
- More Skill Points at the start (i had less than 90k skill points when i started)
- Stop being a pansy.


fornicate a cactus

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Dry Martinis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-11 05:08:51 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
if ppl keep scaring new players off, then they won't have eve to play much longer.


as long as there are paranoid, sadistic nerds with accounting talents, there will always be EVE online.



Sure, but it's becoming quite obvious CCP is willing to change the game they love to accommodate the newer folks.

CAPS LOCK: CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-04-11 11:31:50 UTC
Dry Martinis wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
if ppl keep scaring new players off, then they won't have eve to play much longer.


as long as there are paranoid, sadistic nerds with accounting talents, there will always be EVE online.



Sure, but it's becoming quite obvious CCP is willing to change the game they love to accommodate the newer folks.


Which is not a bad thing.

There an extreme amount of complex things in Eve. Its bloody well overwhelming when you start. you get Paralysed by choice and also shackled by lack of skills.

I'm all for CCP working out how to train new pilots into understanding enough of the fundamentals so that they want to dig deeper and having the resources there to find the information they need to dig deeper.
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#18 - 2012-04-11 11:44:44 UTC
Glad to hear that :)

Btw: better make mistakes at the start. At general you learn more from mistakes than from success. And for EVE: It is cheaper to learn from mistakes while you start, the longer you play, the higher the loss will be. And there will be losses because of mistakes.

When u need something, simply invite me to convo.

Have fun, clear skies and tons of ISK.

Cheers
Outlawd
Asset Seizure and Reclaimation
#19 - 2012-04-11 12:02:05 UTC
Dry Martinis wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
if ppl keep scaring new players off, then they won't have eve to play much longer.


as long as there are paranoid, sadistic nerds with accounting talents, there will always be EVE online.



Sure, but it's becoming quite obvious CCP is willing to change the game they love to accommodate the newer folks.


And what would you have? A stagnant player pool?

Making the initial phases of the game "easier" for new players is a great adaptation and direction for Eve. I welcome more players.
Ildryn
IDLE INTENTIONS
#20 - 2012-04-13 20:25:10 UTC
Outlawd wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Dry Martinis wrote:
if ppl keep scaring new players off, then they won't have eve to play much longer.


as long as there are paranoid, sadistic nerds with accounting talents, there will always be EVE online.



Sure, but it's becoming quite obvious CCP is willing to change the game they love to accommodate the newer folks.


And what would you have? A stagnant player pool?

Making the initial phases of the game "easier" for new players is a great adaptation and direction for Eve. I welcome more players.


I wouldn't have that.
Though i would like the 900,000 skill points that i didn't get. That other players do get.
And i would like the option of buying something like the cerebral accelerator.

But those things are for the new players....not the older players who have had credit card details in CCP's computer for several accounts for several years.
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