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Sextus Severus
Severus Transactions LLC
#1 - 2012-04-10 04:01:15 UTC
I enjoy exploration as much as the next capsuleer, but my good friend was telling me one of his "crazy" exploration stories, you know the type, but this time he actually had proof! So apparently he was scanning in the Area between the Geminate region and the Polaris system and discovered a severely beaten, secure container. So, as anyone would, he brought it on board and examined it. But what he found inside still haunts me to this day. He found highly classified CONCORD documents regarding something in the Yulai system, home of the CONCORD Assembly and former trading hub. The documents contain information about a Thanatos class carrier and apparently not a soul made it out alive. But sadly for us it does not have any other more specific details on how they died (some are currently missing, or maybe CONCORD is hiding something? Also, the details possibly explaining how they died and the rest of the reports were either missing or too badly damaged to be readable) or why CONCORD would purposely not request a search and rescue team. Why would they do that? If a Thanatos class carrier goes missing, you're not just going to say "Okay we'll just get a new one", I think that CONCORD is hiding something, what do you think? I have the documents below if you are interested in seeing for yourself, only two documents were able to be salvaged. Who knows, maybe someone high up can ask a CONCORD official about this and bring our boys back home.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1204/AKHARDULA1092S99.pdf

[u]The Jovian Enclave.[/u] "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."                 _ - Andven Werht, CEO Jovian Directorate_
Deceiver's Voice
Molok Subclade
#2 - 2012-04-10 04:58:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Deceiver's Voice
You would think a leaked document, from CONCORD no less, would have far better encryption.

Decrypted file follows:
Quote:
A824 Thanatos Class Carrier; Admiral Khardula in Command
10:43 EST
Admiral’s Data Log; 10591-2019/2911S99; Project Genesis
After several weeks with no results, our probes picked up a
light reading approximately 20.1 AU directly below the CONCORD
Assembly station. We continued our scanning thinking nothing of
it, but suddenly the reading became stronger, almost as if it had
been asleep and was now awakening. We decided that we would
investigate further. What we thought nothing of had turned out to
be, according to our lead wormhole specialist, an artificial
wormhole that had somehow deteriorated and warped to the point of
becoming a black hole. We made sure to maintain a safe distance
from the black hole to avoid being pulled in by its gravitational
field. As we were orbiting the black hole an odd beam of energy
burst out of the black hole and quickly wrapped itself around our
ship for a brief moment. Before we could react, it was gone. But
to our surprise our ship’s energy grid had been completely
drained along with all other electrical devices onboard. If it is
even possible to make it worse, we began to drift in towards the
black hole. And we were pulled in.
That was two days ago. Shortly after the events that
happened, our electrical systems came back online. We were hid
behind a moon that was close to the location we exited the black
hole from. As we exited the orbit of the moon, we saw a small
object next to a planet that the moon near us was orbiting. We
didn’t know what it was so we enhanced our scanners and found
that it was some sort of station, of the likes that none of us
had seen before. Then Staff Sergeant Probets told us what he
thought it could be; a Jovian station.
End of Data Log: 20914-2019/2019S99: Project Genesis

Name (Last) Rank Status
Khardula Admiral M.I.A.
Severus Commander M.I.A.
Fyr Lieutenant K.I.A.
Tras Warrant Officer K.I.A.
Cazen Master Sergeant M.I.A.
Cassidy Gunnery Sergeant M.I.A.
Alko Sergeant K.I.A.
Mirtux Sergeant K.I.A.
Chere Corporal M.I.A.
Gule Corporal K.I.A.
Gates Private K.I.A.

My vote would be that it is not a leak from CONCORD.

Further, the header is rather... fascinating. Here, take a look...

Quote:
YC 114 4.1
Region; Unknown
Constellation; Unknown
System; Sansha Kuvakei HQ


So... a censored report of a censored report of a... censored report?

In lieu of further evidence, I would judge this to be nothing more than a poor attempt at a hoax.
Sextus Severus
Severus Transactions LLC
#3 - 2012-04-10 05:02:14 UTC
Your un-redacting skills fascinate me.

[u]The Jovian Enclave.[/u] "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."                 _ - Andven Werht, CEO Jovian Directorate_
Deceiver's Voice
Molok Subclade
#4 - 2012-04-10 05:05:36 UTC
Sextus Severus wrote:
Your un-redacting skills fascinate me.

They really shouldn't. I could also point out the scientific inaccuracies in the file if you'd like, but I assume what I have done so far is sufficient?
Sextus Severus
Severus Transactions LLC
#5 - 2012-04-10 05:10:01 UTC
Indubitably. I will have to check in with my friend to see if he has an explanation for this failure of a forgery. I will have him arrested and brought back to the Jovian Empire for sentencing. Thank you for pointing this out and I bid you well.
- Admiral Severus, Jove Navy

[u]The Jovian Enclave.[/u] "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."                 _ - Andven Werht, CEO Jovian Directorate_
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2012-04-10 05:27:11 UTC
Seems legit.

Katrina Oniseki
Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#7 - 2012-04-10 09:38:15 UTC
No more legit than the delusional Gallentean who thinks he's a Jovian.

Mind you, we have...uhh...three of those, at last count.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-10 12:10:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jowen Datloran
Yes, well, Gallentean...

Anything is a fad there.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#9 - 2012-04-10 12:29:29 UTC
Confirming that we call the new Promised Land 'Sansha Kuvakei HQ'.

It's all through our internal documents and everything.
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune
#10 - 2012-04-10 12:36:01 UTC
Nice try Tiberious

Examination of these documents show inconsistencies between CONCORD redaction protocol, and the protocols used in this report. Therefore it is likely that this evidence has been fabricated.

We Query the identity of the 'Good Friend' that was mentioned, as it seems likely that they are, much like the document in question, a work of fiction.

We Return

Unit XS365BT. Designated Communications Officer. Unit Commune.
Link Joker
Goto Manufacturing
#11 - 2012-04-10 16:28:44 UTC
Quote:
Maxim Eight - Mockery and derision have their place. Usually, it's on the far side of the airlock.


Unless I've retrieved it myself, decoded it myself and gotten it authenticated myself, chances are I don't trust the document.

Still, you have to wonder why anyone would bother with a hoax of this type at all.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-10 16:31:38 UTC
Seems bogus
Thanatos-class vessel, probably was manned by gallentes, who made this 'report'. You don't have to be a scientist to know why you wouldn't fly near black holes. But, apparently, gallente education doesn't provide gallente pilots with information about black holes, except they are, well, suck things in

1. Although there is a possibility of slight radiation from black holes (and their dissipation other time), they don't let huge energy out, unless it is exploding. And 'energy beam' from black hole is absolute nonsense. There are two possibilities for a black hole enormous radiation: first is fast dissipation when it becomes too small (and it will be more like a white small dot), or loss of its stability (because of internal processes or external dominant gravity distortion), that would break the black hole to a super supernova

2. Before ship is 'sucked in' or even touches event horizon, it will be teared apart by huge gravity distortion. No shields can prevent it. If you will be piloting this ship, you will see as both your armor and structure are losing integrity synchronously with shield being intact. Well, actually, shields will be must probably losing charge too because of large amount of space junk orbiting the hole at very great speeds, that will hit shields like bullets from auto-cannon. But, unfortunately, you won't be able to see all this, becaus

3. all living forms on the ship will be dead long before it. They will be simply crushed by enormous gravity field of the black hole. I don't know much about graviton physics, but Im sure that energy of all artificial power sources bound together won't be enough to counteract this raw might of raging nature

Well, actually, I'd like to ask one thing to our scientists: if you get caught by a black hole's gravity trap, will you be able to start warp bubble, or you will be tackled by it?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#13 - 2012-04-10 17:25:31 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Seems bogus
Thanatos-class vessel, probably was manned by gallentes, who made this 'report'. You don't have to be a scientist to know why you wouldn't fly near black holes. But, apparently, gallente education doesn't provide gallente pilots with information about black holes, except they are, well, suck things in

1. Although there is a possibility of slight radiation from black holes (and their dissipation other time), they don't let huge energy out, unless it is exploding. And 'energy beam' from black hole is absolute nonsense. There are two possibilities for a black hole enormous radiation: first is fast dissipation when it becomes too small (and it will be more like a white small dot), or loss of its stability (because of internal processes or external dominant gravity distortion), that would break the black hole to a super supernova

2. Before ship is 'sucked in' or even touches event horizon, it will be teared apart by huge gravity distortion. No shields can prevent it. If you will be piloting this ship, you will see as both your armor and structure are losing integrity synchronously with shield being intact. Well, actually, shields will be must probably losing charge too because of large amount of space junk orbiting the hole at very great speeds, that will hit shields like bullets from auto-cannon. But, unfortunately, you won't be able to see all this, becaus

3. all living forms on the ship will be dead long before it. They will be simply crushed by enormous gravity field of the black hole. I don't know much about graviton physics, but Im sure that energy of all artificial power sources bound together won't be enough to counteract this raw might of raging nature

Well, actually, I'd like to ask one thing to our scientists: if you get caught by a black hole's gravity trap, will you be able to start warp bubble, or you will be tackled by it?


Aside from the hilariously blatant anti-Gallente propaganda, I have to agree with this.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-10 22:53:58 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Seems bogus

[snip]



Assuming it really was a black hole, of course.

Still, definitely seems far-fetched.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
#15 - 2012-04-10 23:03:02 UTC
So admiral Sextus. How long have you been in commanding position of jovian navy? Seen many jovian ships in your time?

Fear the God and honor the Empress!

-House Valius battle shout.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#16 - 2012-04-10 23:42:36 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:


1. Although there is a possibility of slight radiation from black holes (and their dissipation other time), they don't let huge energy out, unless it is exploding. And 'energy beam' from black hole is absolute nonsense. There are two possibilities for a black hole enormous radiation: first is fast dissipation when it becomes too small (and it will be more like a white small dot), or loss of its stability (because of internal processes or external dominant gravity distortion), that would break the black hole to a super supernova


Tangent: a black hole will emit radiation when matter "falls in." If matter is falling in to a spinning black hole, there will be jets of radiation out the poles. If a black hole eats something really big or dense, or if two black holes merge, the bursts can be among the brightest sources of radiation in the universe. One explanation for quasars is that they are active super massive black holes chewing through gajillions of solar masses (or other super massive black holes) as galaxies merge and collide in a young universe; and, the poetic GalNet search "death star galaxy" will turn up a super massive black hole with its own death beam (doomsday weapon, schmoomsday weapon).

The fact black holes can emit beams of intense radiation does not mean this report is not a forgery.
Deceiver's Voice
Molok Subclade
#17 - 2012-04-11 12:52:53 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
Tangent: a black hole will emit radiation when matter "falls in." If matter is falling in to a spinning black hole, there will be jets of radiation out the poles. If a black hole eats something really big or dense, or if two black holes merge, the bursts can be among the brightest sources of radiation in the universe. One explanation for quasars is that they are active super massive black holes chewing through gajillions of solar masses (or other super massive black holes) as galaxies merge and collide in a young universe; and, the poetic GalNet search "death star galaxy" will turn up a super massive black hole with its own death beam (doomsday weapon, schmoomsday weapon).

The fact black holes can emit beams of intense radiation does not mean this report is not a forgery.

One thing to point out:

Quote:
After several weeks with no results, our probes picked up a
light reading approximately 20.1 AU directly below the CONCORD
Assembly station.

I think a black hole 20.1 AU away from a CONCORD Assembly Station would be news, non?

Further:
Quote:
He found highly classified CONCORD documents regarding something in the Yulai system, home of the CONCORD Assembly and former trading hub.

So, 20.1 AU away from the CONCORD Assembly Station in Yulai.

By the way; check the date on the report. Blink

To Sextus Severus:
Tall tales of course are nothing without some sort of "proof", so definitely get a copy of this. I'd then suggest going to a bar in Jita, you may get some free drinks from gullible station workers.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#18 - 2012-04-11 21:09:07 UTC
Vaari wrote:
So admiral Sextus. How long have you been in commanding position of jovian navy? Seen many jovian ships in your time?


Called out by the Vaari... what an amusingly fitting way to fall.

Katrina Oniseki
Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-04-11 21:17:20 UTC
Take anything CONCORD has to say with a grain of salt. When the Amir and I killed that Republic Fleet Admiral during the early incursions, our security status was set to -6.00. Shortly after a member of Sanshas Nation contacted us and had one of their CONCORD operatives set it back to -1.00, with apologies they couldn't do better at that specific time. Filthy corrupt organization.