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I'm getting to a weird place in EVE

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Dingurxul
SecTor 8E
#21 - 2012-04-09 22:53:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dingurxul
Just remember that no game has limitless content. Eventually you will run out of things to do. HOWEVER, this game comes as close to limitless content as I think you can get...
D3F4ULT
#22 - 2012-04-09 23:20:43 UTC
I've always figured that "Once mastered; Teach."

I sit in the Mining Chat channel and watch the totally unaware, unintelligent pilots talk about a lot of things they don't really know. Some are knowledgeable in certain things, but many make me question the player base.

It might be a good idea to get into EVE-University or some sort of similar situation and help teach the masses.

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"

Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-04-09 23:47:52 UTC
D3F4ULT wrote:
I've always figured that "Once mastered; Teach."

I sit in the Mining Chat channel and watch the totally unaware, unintelligent pilots talk about a lot of things they don't really know. Some are knowledgeable in certain things, but many make me question the player base.

It might be a good idea to get into EVE-University or some sort of similar situation and help teach the masses.



I always thought it was more like:

"If one cannot do, teach"

Just sayin

I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.

Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-04-10 00:13:59 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
You won't find many MMOs as learning / entertrainment time. The others are mostly shallow canned theme parks.


Fixed it for you.

If MMOs are theme parks, Eve is the equivalent of a lawless Mexican province. Not a whole lot more to it than that when you really boil it down to its base components.

Oh yeah, whole lotta sand, not a lot of box.
"If."
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#25 - 2012-04-10 00:29:56 UTC
I know something in EVE you haven't done yet, and that's given me all your stuff.

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-04-10 00:57:26 UTC
EVE is a mighty mighty mighty fine game, there is absolutely no doubt about this. There are other games that are very good also and a select few even competively so...

It's not a sin to play another game. That's one of the beauties of EVE Online in my opinion. Not having to always be here to be here. There's something about being able to pick this game up after a nice break and feeling some type of refreshement. I don't know how long it will last for you but it generally works.

Go try another game on the low low, with the low demand with EVE you could prob alt tab and play some other game and none of your corpies would ever know.. Lol

Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-04-10 01:03:22 UTC
Speaking as someone who has played Eve since 2003.

It goes in cycles. Sometimes I'd vanish for a couple of months, once, 2 years. But everytime I come back, damn its a good game. It really can't be beat.

Time away is a good thing though.

(Unless your like me and get perverse enjoyment out of making a new character everytime you come back for no reason beyond enjoying roleplaying and making backstories. If only you knew how many times I've trained Drones 5, Hull Upgrades 5 and Weapons Ugrades 5. Its sickening.)

I lied :o

Serene Repose
#28 - 2012-04-10 02:29:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
You seem to like the place. I envision null sec being filled with more stations and facilities than empire! AUs and AUs of massive, player built development. It would take YEARS to build. But, alas, get a sandcastle started and some snivvling, ill-bred brat runs up and kicks it over. AND, it's ILLEGAL to thump him. His mommy, Ms. CCP sends the bodyguard after you!

Imagine...it would take years. You'd always have something in the works...

Or, be like a sociopath and don't imagine. Run out of things to kick over. Pile up so much ISK it's meaningless,
then sit there with a "what the hell do I do now?" look on your face.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Geodeath
Fist of God
#29 - 2012-04-10 04:54:38 UTC
Wow, I thought I was the only one. I rember being laid off and recently divorced wondering aimlessly through the massive software aisle of my local book store in a vain search for my next cyber fix to divert me from a boring depression. 2003 had been a very tpugh year. Then, on a cool endcap, I see boxes of a new game with spaceships and hopeful looking pioneer/pirate types on the front. 45 bucks and an hour later I was spewing photon death at a gigantic veldspar rock and chatting with guys that were "beta vets". Then a couple xdays later I zighted my first cruiser, a brand new shiny osprey just pealing isk out of a scordite. I was hooked, just as if I had wrapped a belt around my arm and used a dirty needle to inject my childhood dreams of exploring the stars into my thirsty veins

Over the years I have quit eve for every reason you can think of, but I have always found my way back to the same old crusty probe the carved the seeds of my now fortune from the beauriful plag in caldari space. Oh never fear, fair reader, my mining turned into industry which, in turn gave me ships to lose. Some I cried for, some I laughed about, and a lucky few are in my own personal museum system.

It seems with each new quit and return I managed to discover a richer and more immersive activity. I have learned from EVE as well. I now know that I am a solo man at heart. I have only real life friends and family in my corp and I encourage them to each learn what interests them in the game the hard way....independent failure and rise to personal greatness. I just recently have been able to coax my teenage sons away from console eyecandy games and into a truly incredible cyber universe. A frontier of pixels, emotions, and math (both fuzzy and absolute)

And I am still fnding new ways to have fun, to escape to my sandbox and let the real world be a universe away for a couple of hours each day. My messed up little zen garden where I find peace in destruction, as this clears the land for new life. If I sneak up on you in you first cruiser or miner while you scrape away at our universe with noob ideas and fail fits, don' t let the flames of your hull boil your tears and blind you to what is really happening. I am simply proving to you the great wonderbof immortality in eve and helping you find a more productive path to internet spaceship happiness. We have all been there and are better for it

And now, I too find myself logging in for the simple joy of undocking and flying a fortress of cyber death intk the vast empty of space.....simply to look at the stars. What a wonderful game.
Shalia Ripper
#30 - 2012-04-10 05:53:38 UTC
Wierd place in EvE?

OP found the Furry chat channel?

Sig blah blah blah blah

Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
#31 - 2012-04-10 06:04:43 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Maybe we can talk about something other then a drunk guy named Alex and a fake electronic market for a while.





I still recall being a noob. I vividly remember someone flying into my home system and marveling at how he had a whoping 50M SP. I ofc was mining normal Veldspar in my Ibis and barely had 1m. Ah... the noobish dreams that I had at the time lol. Now, I have 70m SP, I can use all weapons, fly every tech II-III ship, I can fly all 4 black ops ships, and I am currently working on skills I have no reason to train like Jump Drive Calibration Lv 5. Pretty cool for a sub 100M sp character if I do say so myself.


I have tons of friends in game, and still find EVE Online visually spectacular. I enjoy logging in... and then... that is it. There is no motivation left to do much else besides log in. I kind of always figured that when you got tired of EVE that was it, you're done. But in my case at least, I still love the game, it is just a matter of the game play having nothing else to offer. As a player I think that I am reasonable in my expectations, I am just having trouble committing to a roam, running a mission, going into a Wh or running a CTA when the outcome is predictable.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I can pretty much size up two gangs at this point and predict which one will win. I know where to go to get hotdropped, and where to go to station camp null bears. I know how to hunt in WH space, with the god awful "Circle game" and I know the secrets to making buttloads of isk in unexpected ways. There is just no reason to do any of this, because I have done it already. Anyone else experiencing this?




Since EVE Online was my first MMORGP, I have no frame of reference for reaching a game's "end of life" as it were. I guess I am there, but I still like EVE to much to quit it all together. Weird? Or not so weird? ... and no, if I ever quit all together my stuff will go to a few select friends in game or a random noob who will inherent several billion for no apparent reason. So you cannot haz..


My friends and I were discussing this exact thing. Or rather, what to do about it.

I've had this character now for about a year and a half and all I've done is train it. I haven't shot anyone in the face for almost 18 months. I log in, I train, I keep tabs on the game and its design changes and I keep waiting for the day that CCP radically improves PVP by doing something big- like removing local.

But back to my point- we were discussing how to make Eve fun again, and what we came up with was to try and invent novel and interesting ways to kill people as unexpectedly as possible, just for the emotional impact of it. Basically, causing as many tears as possible for no other reason than to cause distress.

But, this isn't just because we're sociopaths. We're doing this because it actually adds to the game. It builds emotional attachment to the game for our victims. They will remember the adrenalin and the shock. And a few of them will want to get that rush again, and lo and behold- they're set off upon a journey to PVP. Most won't, but some will. I'm willing to kill a thousand carebears if it means turning one of them into a PVPer. Pirate
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-04-10 06:10:49 UTC
Rath Kelbore wrote:
D3F4ULT wrote:
I've always figured that "Once mastered; Teach."

I sit in the Mining Chat channel and watch the totally unaware, unintelligent pilots talk about a lot of things they don't really know. Some are knowledgeable in certain things, but many make me question the player base.

It might be a good idea to get into EVE-University or some sort of similar situation and help teach the masses.



I always thought it was more like:

"If one cannot do, teach"

Just sayin


Once Mastered; Teach

It is an old concept that has been in play for thousands of years, the more modern, 'If one cannot do, Teach' is a misconception of petty self importance and misunderstanding of true mastery. Example; Internationally there are 10 degree's of black belts, and one can only be recognized as a 5th degree black belt without being in the role of teacher. This symbolizes that without teaching what you have learned your mastery of the subject is only half complete.

Join Eve-Uni or Agony Unleashed as an instructure you might find a strange enjoyment out of it, and it might also teach you somethings that you didn't know before. You said you've tried everything, I say you tried everything but one.

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-

Hroya
#33 - 2012-04-10 06:16:27 UTC
Congratulations, you managed to be successfull at Eve.
Now go out and be an utter faillure. Do ´stupid´ things.

In the end none of these online pixels and assorted shabang matter at all. It are afterall tool to entertain you. No reall vallue or purpose attached to it other then that.

If you get to a point where you actions so far has provided a good run but increasingly lowered the entertainment factor, it wouldnt be a bad idea to just shake things up and do the complete opposite.

There are many, many ways in Eve to find entertainment. All you need to do is let go of the idea that these pixels matter in the slightest.


You go your corridor but.

Vetorept Fera
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-04-10 06:25:03 UTC
Get married.

You'll immerse yourself DEEPLY into the nearest MMO.

In pace requiescat

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-04-10 07:10:24 UTC
Hey I quit for 3 years and counting :P

I came back becuase of the maybe change to FW, and to have a voice... we'll see what they pull off. I just want a fun system to play over. it is so boring to own space in eve, it MIGHT get better, we'll see.

however, this video def made me want to get back into some 0.0 warfare/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFahR4wXTg

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

Serene Repose
#36 - 2012-04-10 09:45:50 UTC
Mors Sanctitatis wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Maybe we can talk about something other then a drunk guy named Alex and a fake electronic market for a while.





I still recall being a noob. I vividly remember someone flying into my home system and marveling at how he had a whoping 50M SP. I ofc was mining normal Veldspar in my Ibis and barely had 1m. Ah... the noobish dreams that I had at the time lol. Now, I have 70m SP, I can use all weapons, fly every tech II-III ship, I can fly all 4 black ops ships, and I am currently working on skills I have no reason to train like Jump Drive Calibration Lv 5. Pretty cool for a sub 100M sp character if I do say so myself.


I have tons of friends in game, and still find EVE Online visually spectacular. I enjoy logging in... and then... that is it. There is no motivation left to do much else besides log in. I kind of always figured that when you got tired of EVE that was it, you're done. But in my case at least, I still love the game, it is just a matter of the game play having nothing else to offer. As a player I think that I am reasonable in my expectations, I am just having trouble committing to a roam, running a mission, going into a Wh or running a CTA when the outcome is predictable.


I don't know about the rest of you, but I can pretty much size up two gangs at this point and predict which one will win. I know where to go to get hotdropped, and where to go to station camp null bears. I know how to hunt in WH space, with the god awful "Circle game" and I know the secrets to making buttloads of isk in unexpected ways. There is just no reason to do any of this, because I have done it already. Anyone else experiencing this?




Since EVE Online was my first MMORGP, I have no frame of reference for reaching a game's "end of life" as it were. I guess I am there, but I still like EVE to much to quit it all together. Weird? Or not so weird? ... and no, if I ever quit all together my stuff will go to a few select friends in game or a random noob who will inherent several billion for no apparent reason. So you cannot haz..


My friends and I were discussing this exact thing. Or rather, what to do about it.

I've had this character now for about a year and a half and all I've done is train it. I haven't shot anyone in the face for almost 18 months. I log in, I train, I keep tabs on the game and its design changes and I keep waiting for the day that CCP radically improves PVP by doing something big- like removing local.

But back to my point- we were discussing how to make Eve fun again, and what we came up with was to try and invent novel and interesting ways to kill people as unexpectedly as possible, just for the emotional impact of it. Basically, causing as many tears as possible for no other reason than to cause distress.

But, this isn't just because we're sociopaths. We're doing this because it actually adds to the game. It builds emotional attachment to the game for our victims. They will remember the adrenalin and the shock. And a few of them will want to get that rush again, and lo and behold- they're set off upon a journey to PVP. Most won't, but some will. I'm willing to kill a thousand carebears if it means turning one of them into a PVPer. Pirate

This is pretty dumb. You envision yourself as an emotional experience for other people...yeah, sociopath. Next?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Herold Oldtimer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-04-10 11:50:04 UTC
War is coming.
Bluddwolf
Heimatar Military Industries
#38 - 2012-04-10 12:04:55 UTC
Mors Sanctitatis wrote:


My friends and I were discussing this exact thing. Or rather, what to do about it.

I've had this character now for about a year and a half and all I've done is train it. I haven't shot anyone in the face for almost 18 months. I log in, I train, I keep tabs on the game and its design changes and I keep waiting for the day that CCP radically improves PVP by doing something big- like removing local.

But back to my point- we were discussing how to make Eve fun again, and what we came up with was to try and invent novel and interesting ways to kill people as unexpectedly as possible, just for the emotional impact of it. Basically, causing as many tears as possible for no other reason than to cause distress.

But, this isn't just because we're sociopaths. We're doing this because it actually adds to the game. It builds emotional attachment to the game for our victims. They will remember the adrenalin and the shock. And a few of them will want to get that rush again, and lo and behold- they're set off upon a journey to PVP. Most won't, but some will. I'm willing to kill a thousand carebears if it means turning one of them into a PVPer. Pirate



So, you have kept yourself docked for 18 months becasue there is Local Chat?? Then you have the nerve to call others "carebears". LOL.... If you're looking for challenging PVP, enter Amamake. Trust me, few capsuleers there will flee just because they saw you enter local.

You also write as if PVP is exclusively "end game". EVE is not some fly-by-night Theme Park MMO that goes F2P inside 24 months. EVE has no "end game" which is what makes it the best MMO out there. EVE has "endless possibilities" for character development and game play options.

EVE Online Fan ... Looking for "End Game" since 2006 ... Happily, I still havn't found it

Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#39 - 2012-04-10 12:11:20 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Wait till the War Dec mechanics change and Declare some wars.


Eternum Praetorian wrote:
There is just no reason to do any of this, because I have done it already.




Not the new wardec and aggression mechanics. You can literally not have done it.
Warfare in highsec is going to change and I am looking forward to that. Smile
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#40 - 2012-04-10 12:11:31 UTC
Im the same, i think its time for a break again, have like 28 days left on 2 characters, but 6 months left on another i started training last week.

Think ill unsub my main and 1 of my alts for a while and just keep training that new character up.