Market Discussions

no you will just end up seeing a new jita take its place. the first sign of the new jita will be where the majority of moon goo is being sold.

You mean like making outposts destructible?

Suround all empires by lowsec would cause 4 trading centers and smaller elite of super rich traders with JF. Such an idea is born in the minds of wannabe pirates searching for easy kills with dev help.

Jita is similar to the globalisation in RL. Traders are allways searching for opportunities all over the world. Jita is the condensate of trading in New Eden, because everyone has the same desire to trade with the hole universe.

Should we remove Jita?Yes, because it's not rational that spacepilots make trading like in the middelages. We are in need of a better globalized system of trading, because it's not rational that a higly developed spaceship flying community is stopped by region borders. Real hardcore capitalism is about global trading!

The hole game is bad designed when it comes to trading and producing. In RL there were allways neutral traders sellings minerals and weapons to all sides. Now they get shoot down, because they are neutral. It's not possible to make a difference between a trader and an enemy. I want rogue trading and real as**** that selling drugs, weapons to everyone. I want greedy traders able make fast ISK with getting cheap tritanium in 0.0 to sell it expensive in High and selling ships from Fountain in Tribute. But all this is expensive, impossible or to risky (== expensive).

I'm missing things like contracts about producing and delivering things in some days. I want to be able to deliver minerals to get ships back, because it's a hyper modern community and higly specialized.

After one day they start to whine about the sec stats.

It would be nice to have those random events. It would force people to use insurance more often, maybe evem make corporations for insurance. Then again we need it less like the middle-ages where we can invest in corporations and move isk elsewhere. Think of jita like new york though, its not that big in globalized capitalism, but in eve it seems like jita takes everything in from eve.

Edit: This also makes me wonder if we can make a market regulation system in null-sec outposts on what to sell and what to buy. Then if they want to expand, they can pay corp members to watch gates for security purposes of high-sec industrialists transporting something, or even gate sentries with a set of ruled events to follow depending on how you want them run. This could globalise it more.

Edit: I am going to post something more extensive about this in suggestions. Maybe even including a corporation government like stucture.

To buy out Jita would only reinforce it as more people dumped their money in.


You'd need to do a few things to "kill" Jita.


#1 Find/Create a more centralized - time efficient hub.

#2 Find another place players gather together in sufficient quantities to warrant attracting the necessary population

#3 Proximity to the null sec areas providing the most Moon Goo for T2 manufacturing.

Most of Jita's purpose in the market is as a central source for T2 materials for T2 components and ships. It's practically impossible to find T2 materials in other trade hubs at reasonable prices. The rest of the items that find their way onto the Jita market usually get bought and moved to other trade hubs/mission hubs in volume, since prices are pushed down so heavily by bulk sales.

Jita is the warehouse for EVE, essentially. The meta market is pretty relevant for Jita since most mission runners in proximity to Jita just sell their goods there. And T1 goods just don't get any cheaper. The mineral market is an index and leads the rest of EVE, but that's because it's centralized there from other T2 goods and materials having found their primary purpose there. In the end it's more efficient to go to one place.

Jita is all about volume, so without that volume you can't have Jita.


What I would propose would happen is that any sharp industrialists would create a new "Industrial One-Stop" at a position closer to a low sec entry point to facilitate Jump Freighters and Carriers moving goods around. Jita is inordinately far from most low sec. Jita was also established before JF's even existed.

The hub would most likely stay in the Caldari area because it has the highest native population and a a new caldari hub would be needed. I'd think it would move a noticeable amount closer to a low sec entry point and still have enough factory slots to work out in the area.

Niyabainen would be the conservative choice...


Ikao would be my "move noticeably closer to low sec" choice.

Don't worry, Jita isn't going ANYWHERE. This is merely a "what-if" scenario. CCP has already invested a large amount of money into the Jita Supernode, and oh so many developer hours cracking down on lag in Jita.

Unless, of course, someone actually DOES want to spend a couple dozen billion ISK suicide ganking every one who enters/exits the system for a month.

As far as I know, smartbombs do not work within the vicinity of any station's undock ramp. You would have to kill stuff on the gates.

Smartbombs dont work within 5KM of any Stargate, Station, Acceleration gate.


However, the range of BS Smarbombs can reach up to 5.5KM, so they can actually hit past the mark.

For stations, it just depends on how far the undock point is from the 5KM point - for some stations that can be very close to the edge, or some it is 50km from that 5km edge point.

in theory there will always be a jita. not matter what you do. even if you say limited to sell/buy orders to office holders of that station. you will still end up with a jita. however if they did do this you might see a little bit more equality when it comes to the desribution of wealth. i might also add you will see mega indi corps emerge. no longer will traders wish to trade solo they will need to work with other people. of course this is all falacy since i have no facts to back any of this up.