EVE General Discussion

You know what happens if you feed the fish too often?

I know i suck, I constantly lose my expensive fancy battleships on such remedial lvl 4s.

You could always end up with the WOW thing

they made it too noob friendly and all the old players left. all that happened was a new group of players started playing

Quantity does not imply quality.

Billions of imbeciles can very well go around in circles for millenia without achieving anything of value.

This.

Ah, the nature of the beast. I have said such things before.
Fortunately there are still loads of the smaller Corps (and small alliances), who have not yet gone to bed with the big lads.

For the sake of Eve, let us hope it stays that way.

I think this is why there is such a whine factor here.... everyone thinks their point of view is what everyone elses point of view is.

ccp makes their game, it's either appealing to us or it is not, we make a choice to play/pay based on that. They don't have to listen to suggestions and you don't have to pay/play.

And do you have anything to suggest in order to improve things ?

I don't care whose fault it is....

and YES I have the answer for solving the problem.

NOVA BOMBS NOW !

Once these instruments from "Our Lady of Enema" Missions begin to work their way into the back doors of Zero...
Everything will change ! And what a sigh of relief will be heard in the land.

Ok, what do YOU suggest ?

I believe it's more of a mixture of the two; we tend to take the decisions that we believe have a bigger chance for success.
It makes sense; when game mechanics that normally inhibit your chances are a non factor (due to a balance issue or similar), would you not exploit this situation to your advantage?

Most would, and those who don't more often than not fall victim to those who do, sadly.

As an example:
No one is forced to fly Dramiels as their frigate of choice, but those that do have a much better chance of emerging victorious - or at least running away from a bad situation - than those who do not.
Would we use them if they had more counters and were properly balanced? A lot would, I'm sure, but many would go find the next FOTM (sorry White Tree, I know you don't like that term, but I don't have any other word for what these ships are - unless you could call it a bandwagon-ship-thing-awaiting-massive-nerf; BSTAMN ).

Another example:
Effective Diplomacy (read: NAPfests) is another facet of this, and the OP's suggestion that this is a player issue is entirely correct. However, I also believe that CCP can nudge players towards dropping these excessive blueball coalitions (fx: limit the ammount of blues you can set as an alliance/corp, watch as gatecamps shoot neutrals that are actually allies - eventually this could break a NAP if it is a repeated issue? ).

What I'm trying to say is that it's not just EVE that's broken, and similarly, it's not just a problem with the playerbase; it's a bit of both. CCP's job in this is to encourage players to play the game as they envisioned it; but they should not employ restrictive changes (e/n: they are working on this, removing forced CQ and giving us ship spinning back for example), we do not want to force people into being unable to NAPfest - or make the Dramiel a useless ship - it should just require effort from the player; because the best reward is the kind that you feel you earned through hard work and dedication.

EVE does not need a skinner box complex, if that makes any sense.